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First CMS payment, new partner wants most of it

297 replies

Hipp0campus · 13/02/2024 17:23

Getting a lump cms payment soon, first one for over 5 years!
Told DP of 7 years and hes asked for a majority of it, saying he needs to pay off debts as he's the only one with a CC and has kept me and DS supported for years ect.
I'm unwilling to help with the debts as our relationship is rocky and he constantly threatens to leave. I have had no say in the majority of things that went on the cc.
So
YABU help pay off a chunk of debts

YANBU You've waited 5 years for a payment from ex, don't give it to another man

OP posts:
PutMyFootIn · 13/02/2024 18:37

Even If you paid £3k off the credit card and you left the relationship with nothing you'd still be better off than him who would be £9k in debt.

Anyway, you sound as though you don't like him at all. What was the last fun thing you all did together? I thought so. Best go your separate ways then.

NotQuiteNorma · 13/02/2024 18:38

chiwwy · 13/02/2024 18:26

She has 2 kids to raise, best she keeps the money.

Her bf has been paying for one of them for years. Best she pays back some of the debt she helped to cause.

GrumpyPanda · 13/02/2024 18:40

Itslegitimatesalvage · 13/02/2024 17:42

The debt is because the partner supported them when the OP earned very little and then nothing at all.

Yet the reason OP earned very little was because she was sole carer for the joint, disabled child. Hardly a lady of leisure.

Springpug · 13/02/2024 18:43

The most worrying thing about this
Is the fact you are actually asking the question,and haven't just shut the suggestion down immediately
Get that money in an account he can't touch .
I'd be looking to leave as well

aitchteeaitch · 13/02/2024 18:45

He constantly threatens to leave?

Good. Take him up on his offer and show him the door.

BMW6 · 13/02/2024 18:47

I think he should get most of the money to put towards the debt he's accrued in supporting you and your DC, yes.

AsTheyPulledYouOutOfTheOxygenTent · 13/02/2024 18:49

GrumpyPanda · 13/02/2024 18:40

Yet the reason OP earned very little was because she was sole carer for the joint, disabled child. Hardly a lady of leisure.

I agree. Posters seem determined to view one of other of the parties as parasites, but they look to me like two equal partners struggling to make ends meet while bringing up two children, one of whom has additional needs.

She's not scrounging off her DP: she's providing child care for their disabled child. But OTOH he's not unreasonable to point out that the debts in his name were incurred by all four of the people in the household.

The only villain in this scenario is the tosser who was only prepared to provide support for his child when legally forced to, several years late.

chiwwy · 13/02/2024 18:49

Hipp0campus · 13/02/2024 18:30

My fears are I pay off a chunk of his debts, and he walks out tomorrow 3k lighter and leaves me stuck with f all.
I don't have savings. I don't have family to fall back on. I don't have cc due to awful financial abuse from ex that destroyed credit rating and I am slowly getting that better, I do not want a credit card and have always been clear about how we will live within our means.
He is happy to stick a takeaway or booze on there when we're at the end of the month and have meals and drink in the house already.

You are absolutely right, don't give him a penny.

Don't tell him when the payment comes through.

Start planning your exit.

What is the housing situation?

chiwwy · 13/02/2024 18:51

GrumpyPanda · 13/02/2024 18:37

Are you seriously arguing OP'S DP shouldn't support his OWN child?

Agreed, he needs to pay CMS for his child.

SheepAndSword · 13/02/2024 18:51

The CMS is for OPs child from previous partner which new partner has been helping to pay for for years which makes me a bit hesitant

Dietcokeornothing · 13/02/2024 18:52

OP Please be smart - the relationship is rocky, he threatens to leave all the time

you might need that money for your children

don’t hand it over

chiwwy · 13/02/2024 18:54

NotQuiteNorma · 13/02/2024 18:38

Her bf has been paying for one of them for years. Best she pays back some of the debt she helped to cause.

OP has also been looking after their joint child, so that saved him nursery fees.

Plus OP worked throughout, except for the last 6 months, so she paid for her own child as well.

WeeOrcadian · 13/02/2024 18:54

Absolutely fucking NOT

He threatens to leave you - pack his bags for him. Though I'd bet my last pound that he hasn't said that since you found out about the CMS payment.....

Fucking arsehole.

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 13/02/2024 18:54

Hipp0campus · 13/02/2024 18:34

Living off him, give off

Worked my ass off every hour possible, only haven't worked the last 6 months due to there not being any childcare available for OUR disabled dc. I claim carers to make up for this, I still pay my fair share of the bills and then some.

Carers is £77 a week. This doesn't "make up" for you not working. If that's your only income, then you aren't contributing anywhere near equally in a financial sense.

Does disabled DC attend any kind of school or are they at home all day?

Mrsttcno1 · 13/02/2024 18:55

As other posters have said, he’s paid to support you and the child and so yeah, I’d say some of it should go to him. But as a household I’d probably put this money towards a “joint pot”, if one doesn’t exist then I’d split the money between the two of you.

Teacup19 · 13/02/2024 18:56

I would pay him back for the money he spent on your first child, whatever that amounts to, whether you decide to stay with him or not.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 13/02/2024 18:59

NO WAY! That money is for your DC.
Has he supported you over the years, or is this emotional blackmail?
As he keeps leaving, I'd make it permanent.
You and your DC need security stability and peace
Spend the backpay on achieving that.

Sapphire387 · 13/02/2024 19:08

OP, I actually think you are completely unreasonable and financially abusive yourself... despite saying your previous partner was.

Your current partner has racked up debt in his name that is morally joint debt... it's been spent on household expenses for all four of you. Just imagine how you would feel if the position was reversed. It's not right you're just washing your hands of it. I don't know the backstory to know about his threats to leave, but if I were your partner, I would leave you over this.

RawBloomers · 13/02/2024 19:09

It sounds like your finances have been too closely enmeshed to work out if there is anything actually “owing”. Rent is a significant amount for most people and, presumably, will be a big chunk more than you’d otherwise have needed without your ex’s children. He’s been paying for their uniform until recently and food at the beginning of the month.

You’ve been paying for a wide range of other expenses that sound more variable and since your joint DC you’ve taken the hit to any sort of career progression and, presumably, to your pension.

It’s all been very ad hoc. It does sound like you’ve been okay with him putting some expenses on the CC for your kids, but also as though you’ve been uncomfortable with the level of spending he’s been happy with. I don’t think you can really work out whether he’s funded your DC or not.

So it makes sense to look at what paying off or keeping the money would mean. Your concern about your relationship and what that might mean for you and all 3 of your kids if he walks out after you’ve paid down the credit card is obviously something a sensible mother would consider.

What do you think would, long term, be best for you and your kids?

Would you, ideally, stay with him and try and make it work? If so, I would think you’d need to pay off some of the CC but keep some of the money back. More importantly you’d both need to sit down and come up with a budget between you that would be balanced and allow the credit card to get paid off over time. That would be a working together approach. If he just wants to get himself out of debt without any sort of joint endeavor to getting and staying in the black, I think this is a lost cause regardless of how you use the CMS lump sum.

Or, have you been clinging to this relationship because you couldn’t see a way out, and now you have this lump sum you might actually be able to set up without him? (Something that, if he has actually been subsidising you would make him better off long term even if you didn’t pay down the CC).

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 13/02/2024 19:19

My reply would be There's 2 chances of that One's called fat and one's called no.

LadyShimura · 13/02/2024 19:21

Use the money for ticket to freedom.

I cant imagine all of that was supporting the child alone. There are others in the household including his own child.

YoBeaches · 13/02/2024 19:23

You've clearly lived life as a married couple even if you weren't married.

You've balanced work and childcare in a way that worked and accepted the financial situations that's come with that.

So on the face of it it's a bit off now to say you're getting a small windfall and he won't benefit from it at all.

Why does he threaten to leave?

chiwwy · 13/02/2024 19:24

WillYouPutYourCoatOn · 13/02/2024 18:54

Carers is £77 a week. This doesn't "make up" for you not working. If that's your only income, then you aren't contributing anywhere near equally in a financial sense.

Does disabled DC attend any kind of school or are they at home all day?

How much would it cost him to put his child in nursery? Heck of a lot more than £77 a week.

So OP has saved him tonnes of money being a nanny and housekeeper.

Alwaysgoingforit · 13/02/2024 19:27

What planet is he on? Why do you even doubt yourself? Tell him to FUCK RIGHT OFF and close the door behind him.