to be shocked that TERFs should be raging against kids clothing?

[Preggopreggo]

You cannot be anti-trans whilst also perpetuating a binary with your own children? AIBU?

Surely if the craziness around ‘boy clothes/toys’ and ‘girl clothes/toys’ ended and gender differences became less distinct, then far fewer children would grow up with gender dysphoria and want to transition?

I know very little about all this, so I may be wrong and just can’t find the threads. Please point me in the right direction if this has been discussed already 🙏

Doh error in the title, it should read:

’AIBU to be shocked that TERFS are not raging against kids clothing?’

You think that feminists aren't bothered about gendered clothing? Eh?

In the nicest way, are you new here?

Have you ever met a feminist who enforces pink for girls, blue for boys? Because I haven’t.

Your argument doesn’t make sense OP. Could you elaborate? I disagree with boys’ stuff/girls’ stuff, but I also believe that girls and women need to be protected from (predatory) men in lots of situations.

What your child wears/plays with has no bearing on their sex. HTH

I don't know what you're talking about.
I could probably be described as a TERF. My kids have mostly had clothes specific to their sex, once they got past baby wear. However there have been plenty of exceptions with the youngest wearing hand me down hoodies, tshirts and sportswear from her brother. And she's had a few tops from the Next boys department because they've been cool designs.
What's your point?

https://www.lettoysbetoys.org.uk/

HTH

Wtf are you on about? Who do you mean when you say "TERFs" and what do you mean by "anti-trans"?

Feminists who are critical of gender (as in the sex based stereotypes and expectations placed on girls and women in a sexist society) are obviously going to object to stereotypes in children's clothing.

I am aware of plenty of "raging" against kids clothing, my personal pet hate is putting girls in shoes they can't be active in. I have "raged" against that for decades.

You’ve got it all back-to-front.
Why do you think ‘terfs’ are not concerned about this issue? Where have you heard that they’re not?
And maybe read around the subject yourself before blazing in with such an outrageously misinformed statement.

I know very little about all this, so I may be wrong.

Yes, OP, you do know very little about this and you are wrong! About as wrong as you can be, actually.

What @fedupandstuck said is correct.

'I know very little about all this, so I may be wrong and just can’t find the threads.'

Yes you're wrong and try advanced search.

Gender dysphoria has nothing to do with clothes. It’s how you see your own body and identity. All clothes could be gender neutral and trans people would still exist

You are not making a huge amount of sense op and seem to be misguided on a few things - I hope you stay and read and think and are given the opportunity to learn

Sigh.

It's not anti trans, its womens rights
Hth

And I've rarely bought gendered clothing deliberately for my children or grandchildren. I've gone out of my way in fact to not buy blue for boys or pink for girls. It does exist.

Surely if the craziness around ‘boy clothes/toys’ and ‘girl clothes/toys’ ended and gender differences became less distinct, then far fewer children would grow up with gender dysphoria and want to transition?

Completely agree. It's been discussed many times in the past.

But come on @Preggopreggo you've just turned up, used an insulting term for feminists and demanded posters search for relevant threads for you.

Either this is a wind up or you have no social skills.

Being male or female isn’t an ‘identity’ though, it can’t be personified unless you see being male or female having certain conditions beyond immutable biology. Once you start putting social connotations on what it means to be male or female, then expected dress code certainly comes under that. Those who are GC tend to disagree with clothing being seen as gendered so not quite sure what the op is going on about…

OP You say you know very little about this and yet you want to call people TERFs?

Tell me you have no idea what radical feminists think about gendered expectations without telling me.

Not sure about the ‘trans exclusionary’ however as most rad fems would include women no matter whether the women identified as non binary or trans men.

Spot on.

Let Clothes be Clothes and Let Toys be Toys both started on Mumsnet, I believe.

Wally of the day 🥇