to be shocked that TERFs should be raging against kids clothing?

[Preggopreggo]

You cannot be anti-trans whilst also perpetuating a binary with your own children? AIBU?

Surely if the craziness around ‘boy clothes/toys’ and ‘girl clothes/toys’ ended and gender differences became less distinct, then far fewer children would grow up with gender dysphoria and want to transition?

I know very little about all this, so I may be wrong and just can’t find the threads. Please point me in the right direction if this has been discussed already 🙏

Of course anyone can wear what they want.

And of course that doesn't change their chromosomes or biological sex.

I don't really understand what this whole thread is about.

"But I’m wondering if some of those who have embraced the TERF label are really very R or even F"

Which highlights that you don't really understand what you're trying to debate. RF is not a description it is a brach of feminism. You do not need to be radical to be RF (though to do need to be a feminist).

RF is one of many feminist philsophies.

Radical = meaning ‘the root’. Not radically behaved.

OP is muddling a few different things now-
'TERFS' - some of whom may be radical feminists, are mostly in everyday life 'deconstructing the gender binary' in 100s of ways, by role modeling, by providing children with a range of toys, activities and clothes, by gently or not so gently challenging stereotypes when they are voiced etc etc . But we don't use our children as political props and we chose where to put our political energies carefully, and it probably isn't picketing toyshops or boycotting clothing brands.
The vast, vast majority of people (I believe all) understand that sex is immutable. Many of these are untroubled by the 'gender binary' and recoil at the idea of a boy wearing pink or a girl with short hair.
Hence why, despite the excellent Let Toys be Toys, we are not seeing a mass movement that rejects gender stereotypes. When we have fought off the current attack on women's rights, we may move on to that.

@newtlover I also forgot to say that OP obviously doesn't have children as they are not inanimate props for us. Whatever we feel about the ridiculousness that pink is a "girls" colour, most of us will not force our boys to wear pink to school ( for example) as they will most likely feel uncomfortable and don't want to stand out. We respect our childrens wishes as they are individuals and don't use them as pawns in our desire to have a more equal world because they're not dolls for us to role play with.

exactly

Incidentally, as an RF, I reject the idea that things coded "for girls" are inferior and to be avoided just as much as I reject the idea that things coded "for boys" are superior and to be promoted. There's nothing wrong with a child of either sex putting on a pink tutu and going off to play muddy dinosaurs. For girls, for boys, they're just things and we can all enjoy them if they appeal to us.

Yes, except that all too often they actually are inferior as in less functional. Girls vs boys shoes (we liked mountain warehouse which has identical 'kids' footwear in a range of colours). Thinner t shirt material. The infamous pink product at the time of the inception of let toys be toys was the pink globe... shades of pink instead of clearly distinguishable colours.
It's the combination of colour coding and reduced fitness for purpose which is problematic.

Hence why, despite the excellent Let Toys be Toys, we are not seeing a mass movement that rejects gender stereotypes. When we have fought off the current attack on women's rights, we may move on to that.

Or rather, move back to it!

Well, yes, that's a fair point. But the point I was (clearly not) making was that there can be a tendency for people to see things that girls might like (from music, to books, to clothes and beyond) as inferior because girls like them. Like they have a taint and must be unserious or lacking in some way. I reject the idea that any child shouldn't just like what they like and also that it's somehow less valuable if a girl likes it.

yes, I think we need to be careful about that

There's actually a lot of children's clothes and shoes/boots/wellies in red, yellow, green that are unisex.

We bought a yellow bike for our son and daughter, as well as brightly coloured Lego and marble runs etc for both of them.

You don't have to buy a pink unicorn bicycle for your daughter and superman wellies for your son!

But none of this has any bearing on their biological sex, so I don't really see the point of this thread?