To think this is a vote winner (though not election clincher) from Sunak?

[Lion400]

Thought this was an impressive and clear response to the question, from Rishi. I suppose Labour will likely win by a landslide, because many people don’t care enough about women’s rights. Because I do care very much about women’s rights, I may vote Conservative for the first time ever (cue outrage for Lion). Will I regret it? Possibly. But I’d regret voting for Labour (aka women’s rights removers), even more.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

Haven't called anyone a bigot
Neither have I,and haven't seen anyone else say that either.
Think this comes under making shit up again?!

You are harming women Adam. Stop trying to make people pretend otherwise. Gender ideology is not inclusive. It's the opposite of inclusive. Stop pretending otherwise. I get that it's hard for you to accept that you're the bad guy but you are. Women are not safe whilst there's people trying to gaslight them into eroding their boundaries because some males wish they had been born female.

Perhaps not on this thread. But I have been on others, on this thread I've had Tory bot, shill, paranoid and a right wing propagandist.

This list is not exhaustive.

Yes sorry Blossom. I've found your posts offensive but it was Izimbra which came up with this particular bile.

This is what I think is a conspiracy theory.

izimbra has a point though. The dehumanising language used about trans people, especially trans women here is disturbing, and the calls for policing them going about their daily lives, persecuting them, even publicly deriding them as a poster said in a previous thread will of course impact the mental health and wellbeing of this already vulnerable group of people. Treating your fellow humans with respect does not harm women. Trans people are not the threat. A culture of intolerance, persecution and dehumanising people is. And these are things you most often find in right wing media such as GB News, Daily Mail and The Telegraph where many of these so called 'GC' posters freely admit they get their 'facts' and opinions from.

Well then I suggest you ask MN to delete your accusation.

I know all women don't think the same but Blossoms has been clear what she thinks and that she thinks that her views align with the Labour Party views.

That taken together with the fact that the current law as set out in the EquA the GRA and case law (Haldane judgement) means that legal women (males) can be in women's singe sex spaces, and this has been actually happening over the last few years, yet Labour says no amendments are needed, makes Labour's position crystal clear.

So what shit am I making up, again?

I feel like a cracked record.

Or Labour could just confirm that they will protect women's single sex spaces by amending the Equality Act to allow that to happen, but they won't.

We all suffer from the impact of dehumanising language whether it’s ‘vagina haver’ or whatever

And some of us suffer from being made to lie about biological reality

And wrt lies especially impact of gender on dc

And then loss of privacy, dignity and safety plus unfairness in sports

All relevant to many women and I’m sure there’s more others can say

How am I harming women?
I'm not supporting a change from the status quo. In fact I support Labour who are currently the only party committed to protecting spaces for biological women only.
I do a lot for women IRL.

No izimbra really doesn't. People aren't saying trans people are the threat, they're saying males are. That's who's being policed. Males. A culture of intolerance to women's needs, dehumanising them by treating them as service personally and state sanctioned persecution of them is perhaps why you're failing to grasp those key point. This poor treatment of women is causing untold harm. You find this on extreme right wing pseudo left wing publications such as the Guardian.

But do feel free to clarify what persecution and policing you're talking about so people can see you're really talking about objections to cross sex pronouns and refusing to welcome males (yes TW males but it would apply to any male who tried to invade women's spaces) into protected female spaces. Be clear what you're objecting to because showcasing your bigotry helps sensible people realise how anti women your views are.

If you don't like it you can ask them to delete it, if they think it's inappropriate or against site rules they'll act accordingly.

I'm not going to ask them to delete anything.

Bear in mind that the Labour Party themselves have accused women of being 'right's hoarding dinosaurs' or told them that they are not welcome as member of the labour party for holding views that women should be seen as separate from men I don't think this is an inaccurate post, the inference is that these are bigoted views.

Transphobia has also been used about my views on this thread.

I could equally ask for posts that have claimed I am a man (untrue), a tory bot (untrue) , a conspiracy theorist (unhinged) to be removed.

If we all ask for posts to be removed which are based on inference then this thread won't have many posts left.

This is simply not happening. Women would like to be allowed to have their boundaries respected. I am more than a person who exists to validate the identity of some of the men I work with. I just wish I could go to work without having to deal with this crap, I find it horrible. And no, I don't have the luxury of being able to just get a job somewhere else.

What's the difference between a trans woman and a male to you?

She didn't say that at all.

You are misquoting what she actually said.

I'm not bullying anyone.

I see we are in the "frantic posting to close the thread" section of the script

And then loss of privacy, dignity and safety plus unfairness in sports

How have your privacy, dignity and safety been impacted by trans people - concrete examples please that you have experienced?

And as I keep having to repeat ad infinitum a lawfully-established separate or single-sex service provider can prevent, limit or modify trans people’s access to the service. This is allowed under the Equality Act.

Blossoms views are abhorrent. Challenging them is not bullying but I see you're getting into victim mode again. It looks like that may be a go to as an attempt to control others.

Yes she did. And yes you are. Stop it.

I did actually. Unfortunately the posts have been enthusiastically reported so the evidence has gone.

What on earth is "abhorrent" about supporting a trans colleague? Don't be ridiculous.

Quite and the usual suspects have shown up to fill it!

They're not protecting women. The status quo is not protecting women and you're trying to hide that fact.

So picking up on posts of blossoms is bullying. Calling me a conspiracy theorist is not.

Jesus Adam be consistent at least. This is AIBU.

If a poster is going to make comments on here they should be robust enough to defend their position.