To think this is a vote winner (though not election clincher) from Sunak?

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Thought this was an impressive and clear response to the question, from Rishi. I suppose Labour will likely win by a landslide, because many people don’t care enough about women’s rights. Because I do care very much about women’s rights, I may vote Conservative for the first time ever (cue outrage for Lion). Will I regret it? Possibly. But I’d regret voting for Labour (aka women’s rights removers), even more.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1757143443111841900

But in reality it's 14 years to see the impact of the bad laws introduced by the Labour Party.

We've only really seen the harms to this in the last 5 years.

But you can't blame Tories for ever. When the Labour party get in this will be on them.

People have only really clued in to the impact recently

I did from here, but only a few years, others via Isla Bryson or other similar

People can see it more now as boundaries are pushed further in sports and spaces

When the USA sneezes the UK catches a cold. What’s happening over there for women and girls is truly heartbreaking. Particularly in schools. I just hope we don’t end up in a similar place to them. Riley did an amazing job.

So the GRA Act became law in 2004 and the Equality Act became law in 2010 but it’s taken 14 years to see the impact and the “harms” have become apparent since 2019? OK.

I’ll blame the Tories as long as they’re in power. Who else would I blame?

I see, so 20 years after the GRA introduced & 14 years of the Tories, we are only just seeing the harms......

so the attacks on women in mixed sex wards, closure of DV refuges, panic room tax, the crisis in rape charges/convictions, closure of sure start centres, men in female sport... maternity scandals..... shall i carry on? is nothing to do with the Tories and we need to stop blaming them.

These issues have been going on for many years, some under Labour, most under the Tories.

As for Badenoch? just full of hot air, blames everyone but her Govt.

You really are a Tory party stalwart.

I think there were a few on mn FWR talking about this ages ago, clever that they are

But for many it really wasn’t that big an issue until recently

I don’t mind saying it took reading up from other women to understand the issues

A grassroots thing, and I’m grateful to those who didn’t stop speaking up. On here and elsewhere

All helping, but it’s not fast. A huge amount of vested interests including legal challenges wherever possible and looking at other countries I don’t think any have achieved a reversal

Do you think it's laziness? Complacency? Stupidity? Or straight up misogyny in the guise of MRA/TRA / Tory rapist thing going on?🤔

I didn't say the Tories aren't to blame.

I am asking what the Labour Party will do about the impact of their badly drafted laws?

As far as I can tell, they will do less about it than the Tories will, the Tories have indicated they will amend the Equality Act, the Labour party has said they won't.

That's not my fault it's the Labour Party's fault.

That's not my fault it's the Labour Party's fault.

How do you suggest they do anything in opposition when the party in power won’t?

Right so you're prepared to let this issue that Labour could address slide?

I think women deserve better.

We don't change things with apathy.

Ooooo this is getting close peak tory!

Can't blame the tories forever, but you can blame historic and future Labour governments for eternity!

How do you type stuff like that and have the brass neck to hit post?

I expect them to make commitments that are worth their salt that they will fix the problems caused by their bad laws.

if they won't even do that why should I trust them on this?

This will change through pressure

‘I don’t care’ obviously won’t do that

Mn is a good record of how it has built up with women speaking up

Because I'm not apathetic like all of the Labour voters who will let Labour get away with this by saying 'but not the Tories'. The issue is too important.

The more women who take Labour to task on this the more Labour will realise that the electorate won't stand for it.

If we don't tell them we don't agree with their position on this then they will say it is not an issue that matters.

Labour are likely to form the next government. They brought in bad laws, have seen the harms and have made statements that they won't amend those laws. That's not good enough.

Labour are likely to form the next government

Thank fuck

On many issues , yes.

On this issue absolutely not.

Women deserve beter.

Have you missed the past 14 years of Tory governance? What they have done to women's rights? What they have done to the UK?🤯🤯🤯

Do you have some sort of Rip Van Winkle thing going on?

I expect them to Oppose the current governments position.

They haven't done that despite the harms to women.

In fact they have committed to making it easier for a male to get his birth certificated falsified to say he is a female.

I'm not a one issue voter
If you think the Tories are a good thing for women you're in La La Land.

I am able to think that Labour could make lots of things better for the people of the UK including this.

Why do you think this issue is not something that the Labour Party can fix?

Don't you think that women's rights to single sex spaces are important enough? We form 51% of the population. Why are the rights of males to identify as women more important to the Labour Party than the rights of women to single sex spaces?

His misogynistic actions and words mean we can't trust him. If he wants people to think he means actual women, biological, natal women, never TW, then he needs to say so. His attacks on equality of course lead to people mistrusting his waffle. He's choosing not to clarify. Why?

You've already made it clear that you think that the rights of tw to be in single sex spaces is more important than the rights of minority women and sexual abuse survivors.

To give you credit at least your position is consistent and you agree with the Labour Party stance on this, that the males in this scenario are more important.

This is an issue which crosses the political divide.

Women need to stand up and say NO we will not have our rights overridden by men, however they identify. And we need to keep questioning all politicians, pushing, writing our emails and letters and maybe it will get through.

There are some wonderful women who have been doing this for years and they have brought this issue in to the light where is deserves to be - much to the annoyance of the TRAs.

We should not be letting any politician off the hook on this whatever party they belong to - it is too important.

Exactly this.

This is not a thread about Labour. It's a thread about the Tory PM and government. I hope the next government are better for women's rights than the Tories have been, but if they're not, I'll fight them just as I've fought the Tories.

Going back to the White Elephant that is Rwanda policy, the reason the Tories have wasted so much money, time and effort on it is so they can pass a law that means reality is whatever the government says (so 2+2=5 if they want) and UK citizens have no legal recourse to say 2+2=4.

If the Tories were so good for women, we'd vote for them based on the evidence and their record over the past 14 years. But they aren't good for women. A Tory vote is an anti-woman vote.