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Step daughters behaviour - AIBU or is my partner?

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LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 21:14

I will preface by saying that 90% of the time, my step daughters are lovely. We have a great relationship and I love them very much. However, they are now late teens and at an age where there is some attitude, back chat, rudeness etc. I don’t want this thread to start lambasting them, my issue is with my partner.

I will start by I am quite sensitive and a non-confrontational person. I do get upset quite easily, especially at the moment as I have a young baby and I am very sleep deprived. I do accept that I could have perhaps handled these situations better, perhaps been more assertive or authoritarian. I am quite a fair bit younger compared to their dad (20s) and I came into the relationship when they were already older (12+). My relationship with them has always been that of an aunt / sister, as anything else felt inappropriate.

A few months ago, I took both my step daughters out for a day at a spa. It was expensive but I wanted to do something fun and treat them. Within half an hour of getting to the spa, both of them began to bicker and argue with one another. I tried to diffuse the situation as best I could and distract them, however, it resulted in one of them hitting the other in the middle of the spa. At that point I told the one who had hit the other off. For the rest of the day, the one who had been told off didn’t speak, answering with one word, being short and rude in her responses, and there was an awful atmosphere. Not only was it awful in the spa itself, but the hour long car ride home was spent sat in silence.

I told my partner who spoke to them and assured me it wouldn’t happen again.

Fast forward to a few months later, today I had arranged to meet some close family friends in town. We were to leave early in the morning so it tied in with the baby’s feed and nap, and my step daughters were also keen to go shopping before we met the family friends. I already felt a little anxious organising all of this because of what had happened last time. My partner has a hobby on a Saturday, and before he left this morning, he spoke to both of them about what had happened last time and reminded them of behaviour expectations. About ten minutes after he left, an argument started over a jacket that they both wanted to wear. It got progressively louder and worse, and we were at the point of needing to go. They then asked me what I thought, and I said that the one who was already wearing the jacket should wear it and we could always have a look for a similar one in town for the other girl. At that point, my step daughter who I hadn’t sided with, began to rant about how unfair it was, that she had nothing to wear, we’d ruined her outfit, and finished off by saying that her sister and I were both ‘thick’.

At this point I rang my partner and told him he needs to come back from his hobby and accompany his children. I would have just cancelled the day altogether but the family friend had already spent money on her travel arrangements. My partner went mad at me on the phone, saying he should be able to leave them alone with me and I need to be better at disciplining them. He also accused me of taking away his down time and reminding him of an ex who also used to phone him about family drama, and that he felt embarrassed in front of his friends as he had to cancel his hobby that day. I told him that it’s not my job to discipline them, and had I tried that in the past, and it resulted in a ruined day out and atmosphere. I am only trying to do something nice by organising these days out. I wasn’t prepared to do that again. He carried on having a go at me, and I’ll be honest by the end of the call I ended up very upset. He did come back from his hobby, but he has been in a foul mood all day. We haven’t really spoken at all.

My step daughter has apologised to me and we have sorted it out.

I am very upset with my partner, but he insists I just need to change my relationship with them and be bolder in confronting and disciplining their behaviour. I don’t feel that it’s my job to do so, I shouldn’t have to navigate these situations alone and I’ve come in when the children are already older and have established parents, rules, discipline etc.

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
MILTOBE · 11/02/2024 11:01

BornIn78 · 10/02/2024 21:46

Yet another man who has gone for 50/50 custody and then found a gullible woman to do the grunt work of looking after his children for him while he swans about like a free agent.

Exactly. And then blames the new partner for not being able to cope with his children and spoiling his day out.

You're in your 20s. Why the hell are you with this complete and utter twat? Can't you see how much better you can do for yourself?

Ramalangadingdong · 11/02/2024 11:14

Purplewarrior · 10/02/2024 21:22

Oh I see. So he pays no maintenance?

And you look after the children…

He saw you coming mate.

Yep, he’s on to a good thing: a lovely young partner and a childminder all rolled into one. While the SD’s are just going through a phase they are nevertheless also using OP as an emotional punch bag. I have no advice just sympathy.

NotARealWookiie · 11/02/2024 11:16

“He also accused me of taking away his down time”

But it isn’t his downtime? He wants to be a parent to his teens for 50% of the time, so that what he has to do during that time. If not he can pay maintenance to their mum and let her have them more than 50% of the time.

OP you sound nice but you’ve now got a baby and you are looking forward to all the the things you will do with your baby as she grows. All of the christmases and birthdays, the days out and school plays. Now imagine you split with your partner and he decides he wants to take 50% of those from you because it’s sooooooo important to him to spent half of your child’s childhood with them. And even though it was you who grew them in your body, went through childbirth and then struggled through the tough newborns times - he has a right to this and you have to just accept it. Then on his 50% of the time, he palms the childcare off to someone else. He doesn’t do this on the Christmas and Birthdays by every other weekend he does. The weekends he fought you for.

Thats how he treated his ex when she asked him to help and that’s how he’s treating you.

By the sounds of it, he hasn’t even married you. He’s just told you that you’re their step mum now, so that he can play golf.

diddl · 11/02/2024 11:24

I don't think you need to be bolder with them, just leave them to their dad to sort out.

Instead of telling him that he needed to accompany them I think that you could just have told him that you were going without them & what he decided to do with that information would be up to him.

All of that said he sounds bloody horrible & I think you need to really think about whether or not he is worth staying with.

He sounds like a shit father.

You might find it easier alone.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 11:27

SecondChancesAtLife · 11/02/2024 10:52

welcome to the world of teenagers!

Sorry, I think if you marry a man with children who live with you 50% you have to be prepared to parent them and deal with all that entails.

I don’t think he should be leaving them with you at weekends whilst he fucks off with his mate though.

She didn’t marry him. She just got pregnant by him within a year of dating him.

socks1107 · 11/02/2024 11:30

I think on the weekends he has his children he doesn't do his hobby.
My dh never made plans when his dd was with us, I can probably count on one hand the times I've had her whilst he was socialising in 12 years. It's how it is and if they can t behave he can't go out

Mainats · 11/02/2024 11:35

You husband is a selfish, entitled bastard. I wouldn't be crying, I'd be threatening to divorce his sorry arse.

MerryChristmasToYou · 11/02/2024 11:41

@Mainats , she can't divorce him, they're not married. She's only been with him about 2 years and already has his baby.

Bet his ex was on MN a few years ago complaining about his hobby and his shit parenting.

Livingtothefull · 11/02/2024 11:41

It sounds OP as though you are not married to this man. You have no obligation to parent his children, they already have 2 parents of their own. He should be so grateful and appreciative of the efforts you have made towards his DDs.

You say you are a sensitive and non-confrontational person. So your 'D'P must know that too, yet rather than support and empathise with you in the challenges in building a relationship with his DDs - whilst caring for your baby - he bullied and hectored you when you were deemed to have stepped out of line and then spent the day in a foul mood, to further punish you.

Then after punishing you, you say he insisted that 'I just need to change my relationship with them and be bolder in confronting and disciplining their behaviour'.

There is nothing you need to change about yourself OP, you are fine as you are. But HIM....he chose you as a very young woman to be his DP, knowing that due to your age and personality it was likely to be challenging for you to look after his DDs. Yet rather than just support you and show appreciation for your kindness towards his DDs, he first lashes out at you as punishment then proceeds to tell you everything about yourself that needs fixing?

I find his behaviour utterly inappropriate and wrong. It is obvious you have gone out of your way to support him & his children, and this is not your responsibility to fix. I find it very concerning that he seems to have no consideration at all for you.

His attitude needs to change. I have to say though that based purely on your posts he sounds deeply unpleasant imo.

Stupidliefromfriend · 11/02/2024 11:42

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nadine90 · 11/02/2024 11:51

I made the mistake in my twenties of thinking that an older man would be more mature and caring. It turns out people can be shits whatever their age.
Given the circumstances I think you’re right not to get too involved in disciplining your SD’s. They would resent you for it if you did.
Their dad only has them 50% of the time, he has plenty of time when they’re not around to plan his social life. Especially at their ages when they will have their own social life too. The way he spoke to you was unacceptable.
If this is how he generally conducts himself, I’d be rethinking things x

Purplesilkpyjamas · 11/02/2024 11:52

I don't understand how someone in their 20s would be in a relationship with someone in their 40s.

DungareesAndTrombones · 11/02/2024 12:01

Good for you making him come home! Why should your day be ruined by a couple of teens who can't behave.

MerryChristmasToYou · 11/02/2024 12:07

I don't understand how someone in their 20s would be in a relationship with someone in their 40s with two teenagers half the time.

Nanny0gg · 11/02/2024 12:07

LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 21:21

@Purplewarrior They are with us 50% of the time.

They are there to spend time with their father. He can do his hobby some other time.

You are not his babysitter.

When does he spend time with ALL his children?

And he'd only speak to me like that once...

Nanny0gg · 11/02/2024 12:11

Thinking about it, he's got you as a live-in babysitter/housekeeper with added benefits

Do you work? Are you living in his house? Does he do anything at home?

I think you need to find your assertiveness and get the hell out

Nanny0gg · 11/02/2024 12:12

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What part are you objecting to?

pinkyredrose · 11/02/2024 12:14

LoopyHarry · 10/02/2024 22:11

@MyGooseisTotallyLoose Yes, that’s correct.

I am worried about outing myself, but they are 14 & 16. So I guess one is ‘mid-teen’. Difficult ages.

There is less years between the eldest girl and me than between me and her dad, I don’t feel I am in a position to discipline or be authoritarian.

You definitely are in a position to discipline! They're in your house ffs! You need to be tougher, show them you won't accept being treated like shit.

Andthereyougo · 11/02/2024 12:19

You can’t change what’s happened but you can change going forward.

  1. They are his children, not yours. When they’re with you they are his responsibility.
  2. No more spa days, no more treats. You’re pleasant to them, the home is happy and easy going but you don’t have to be superwoman and make everything sparkly wonderful.

The girls will grow up, leave home and I’ll assume you’ll still want to be with your husband so put your boundaries in place now and be firm, with him and his DDs.

welliesandcashmere · 11/02/2024 12:21

OP get out of there before he grinds you down. You are clearly smart and centered - and you are still so young! Do not do the grunt work while he buggers off to play golf.
I'd' bet that his ex did the majority of the parenting while he swanned around like a free agent, putting her career and time for herself on the back burner for years and now he offers her no form of financial support. Yes, maybe she doesn't complain - she is probably still pulling her confidence out of the gutter after he stomped all over it, for years! It is a classic tale!

Prelapsarianhag · 11/02/2024 12:23

He sounds like a selfish controlling cunt, not to mention cradle snatcher. Get back to work as soon as you can and start saving.

Itslegitimatesalvage · 11/02/2024 12:23

welliesandcashmere · 11/02/2024 12:21

OP get out of there before he grinds you down. You are clearly smart and centered - and you are still so young! Do not do the grunt work while he buggers off to play golf.
I'd' bet that his ex did the majority of the parenting while he swanned around like a free agent, putting her career and time for herself on the back burner for years and now he offers her no form of financial support. Yes, maybe she doesn't complain - she is probably still pulling her confidence out of the gutter after he stomped all over it, for years! It is a classic tale!

He pays half of all costs for the kids? What do you mean he offers no financial support?

Look, I think the guys sound like an ass but he is paying half of all the kid’s costs. Why would he have to give her any more money that that? If he covers half of all clothes, food, activities, housing etc then he has done his part of the financial burden. The mum does actually have to pay her own way.

tiredmama23 · 11/02/2024 12:37

Oh my god OP I was fuming on your behalf reading this! I have a 17 year old and she is HARD work at times, like really tests my patience. And she is MY daughter! If I was dealing with someone else's stroppy teen, plus their stroppy teen sibling, AND my own baby too, id be losing my mind frankly. Tell their useless prick of a father to care for his own kids instead of swanning off to his "hobby"! How DARE he make reference to "my ex used to do this". And?! Was she their mother?? You are not and caring for these kids isn't your job.

Please stand up for yourself here OP, you're being walked all over!

OhMargaret · 11/02/2024 12:42

I can't believe we still live in a world where 20-something women will actually take these older guys on, then do the lion's share of their own childcare AND the ex's kids too.

Raise the bar ffs.

Ohnoooooooo · 11/02/2024 12:53

I think if you have chosen to look after kids whether it’s your step kids or a friend’s kids then you need to step up whatever age they are and monitor and manage behaviour for the period you are in their care.

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