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MIL kept our wedding gift money

228 replies

newmomaboutthreads · 09/02/2024 12:54

For context we are both British born Indians. My husbands family are much more traditional, can't speak english for example however I have been brought up in much more western environment. So this maybe cultural that I don't understand.

My MIL kept all the money that was given to us on our wedding.
A lot was cash placed in my lap and some given in cards. She has kept all that cash and the cards from my husbands family.
She gave me the cards from my husbands friends only (my mum had the cards from my friends & family and gave them all to me when we got back from honeymoon). But I know my husbands family gave us a lot but nothing else was given to us.

We would be talking thousands. We don't need the money but I just find it really weird.

Is this something cultural that I don't get?

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pineapplesundae · 10/02/2024 22:19

People who gave you the money want you to have it. Ask mil where’s the money!!!?

NowWhatUsernameShallIHave · 10/02/2024 22:20

My ex MIL took all the gold and jewellery that was gifted to me 😒

SaffaIrish · 10/02/2024 22:45

Colleagues of mine (in the UK) have told us that money from their Indian weddings goes to the parents to pay for the wedding, but they can keep vouchers. We then make sure we get them vouchers so that they can keep the gift.

Baaba · 10/02/2024 22:50

You know this is cultural, even if you were raised in a more western way. Weird that you'd raise it on here given a majority of MNs are not going to relate. Why haven't you raised this with your family?

ThatRoseBear · 10/02/2024 23:18

greengreengrass25 · 10/02/2024 07:57

Why did the in-laws get the money when they hadn't paid for the wedding

Is that like a dowry?

Not a dowry as such. They should have only kept the money in their sides cards as it was given by people that they had gifted money to previously. It's seen as their return. The money in my sides cards should have been kept by my parents. However my mother has some batshit crazy ideas and handed it over, told them to keep it so they did. My mom also told me to hand my gold over, I didn't and have to push back against her suggestions even now. Dowry wise, no one asked for anything. My parents gifted me bedroom furniture etc but that was by choice

ThatRoseBear · 10/02/2024 23:25

NowWhatUsernameShallIHave · 10/02/2024 22:20

My ex MIL took all the gold and jewellery that was gifted to me 😒

My mom handed all of mine straight to my MIL, I soon got it back. My mom also had batshit crazy ideas like I should hand my pay packet to my inlaws.i don't know what planet is on and have to firmly rebut her nonsense!

newmomaboutthreads · 10/02/2024 23:53

Baaba · 10/02/2024 22:50

You know this is cultural, even if you were raised in a more western way. Weird that you'd raise it on here given a majority of MNs are not going to relate. Why haven't you raised this with your family?

There is no need for me to pardon my ignorance when I am seeking an understanding.
MNs has a huge wealth of knowledge about many cultural specifics and I can ask it with anonymity so as not to embarrass anyone.
If you read the replies I've had a huge number who have explained the situation perfectly. I'm so glad I asked.

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newmomaboutthreads · 11/02/2024 00:05

NowWhatUsernameShallIHave · 10/02/2024 22:20

My ex MIL took all the gold and jewellery that was gifted to me 😒

My MIL did gift me lots of a gold jewellery... which is conveniently stored in my MIL bedroom! (Because it's not safe keeping it in central London apparently) It's a lot of BS show and tell to their family it seems. I don't really care for it, it's not my taste anyway.
But this thread got me thinking about a certain Kanye song lol 🎵

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FatPrincess · 11/02/2024 00:10

My boss (and most workmates) are British born Indians - Sikhs. I can ask around on Monday if you'd like.

Fitz1987 · 11/02/2024 06:47

Baaba · 10/02/2024 22:50

You know this is cultural, even if you were raised in a more western way. Weird that you'd raise it on here given a majority of MNs are not going to relate. Why haven't you raised this with your family?

Yet this thread has got many responses. What a pathetic and ignorant reply.

CRD67 · 11/02/2024 06:51

Manopadmanaban · 10/02/2024 21:30

They are so many Indians on Mumsnet because I'm one of them. Stop being so bloody racist!!

Can you explain where there was any racist comment?

MrsElJefe · 11/02/2024 10:47

I just wanted to say what an interesting thread this was. As a mixed English / Indian female who is very ignorant of her Indian background - thanks!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/02/2024 11:54

CRD67 · 11/02/2024 06:51

Can you explain where there was any racist comment?

Save your breath, CRD67; there's only been one post deleted on this thread - though I didn't see it before it went - and that's with HQ who, to their credit, are pretty good at zapping dubious posts

Unfortunately, to some, "racism" can be code for something they'd rather wasn't discussed, and I've never been sure how that helps matters

T1Dmama · 11/02/2024 12:44

newmomaboutthreads · 09/02/2024 13:00

Yes good point. I did, he just kind of awkwardly said he's not sure.
I also don't want to be the person saying "where's our money?!" but also where's our money?

Your husband and you need to go together and ask for your wedding money!!
I wouldn’t be happy letting this go, it sets a precedent for the future.. thinking she can take stuff that isn’t hers!

Prettydress · 11/02/2024 14:11

This has been a really interesting thread to read OP. I'm so glad you did post it here. Good luck with the future. X

PolkaDotsLikeALadyBug · 11/02/2024 16:10

No way! we paid for our wedding (my dad paid catering) and we got to keep all the money - all the Sagan money, card money, pre-wedding function money. if your in-laws paid for the wedding then i'd offer to pay some back - but she didn't. I offered my dad the catering money he said no. Just ask her - 'oh the money from the wedding gifts, did you keep it safe for us? perhaps we can use it for when we decide to have kids?'.

newmomaboutthreads · 11/02/2024 17:30

Lavender14 · 09/02/2024 16:51

I think op, you need to have a very honest conversation with your husband to talk about what you both want for your future, what you want your marriage to be like and where both sets of parents come into that. I'd want to know that my husband understands that now he's married his wife and any subsequent children must come first to protect his immediate family unit and other people outside of him, his wife, his child can be respected and included where it doesn't negatively impact on the immediate family unit. Establish this now op before you have children and realise that he's raising them with his mother's influence instead of yours. You need to know that he will have your back and you can trust him completely to support and protect you, even from his family if needs be. Then I'd expect him to go and have a conversation with his mother and ask her exactly what the money has been used for or where it is and to ask for it back. You want to start as you mean to go on otherwise it will set a precedent that might be hard to change when you have children etc.

Culture and family are very important but you and your dh get to set your rules as to how Culture and family fit into your lives.

Thank you for this considered reply. I agree, that is a very important conversation that we haven't had but certainly need to. I just expect that to be the case but I have seen now it is not a given.
Especially with "maintaining culture" getting thrown in to the mix.

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SusieLawson · 12/02/2024 01:15

Is it the same as a dowry, where the wife's family give money to the husband's family? I heard that's why some cultures prefer to have boys, so they don't have to pay a dowry. That probably isn't legal in Britain though

ThatRoseBear · 12/02/2024 08:24

SusieLawson · 12/02/2024 01:15

Is it the same as a dowry, where the wife's family give money to the husband's family? I heard that's why some cultures prefer to have boys, so they don't have to pay a dowry. That probably isn't legal in Britain though

Edited

No this isn't the same as a dowry. I didn't keep my inlaws side money in cards as they had been to weddings for years and given those people monetary gifts. So when we got married we were only given cards with money based on that. Therefore inlaws would keep it. When the cards are opened the amount is written down, Normally £20 ish. When that family marries a child you would give the equivalent back, never less. I wouldn't have kept is as I had never paid anything out to other peoples weddings plus it then absolved me from doing it going forward. That responsibility remains with my inlaws.
Dowry is pretty much phased out now, I'm in my 40s and have never seen it either in weddings here or abroad.
I think this thread has been really valuable in learning for most people around the cultural and traditional aspects of Indian weddings.

anyolddinosaur · 12/02/2024 09:01

It is racist to assume that " white British" people have no knowledge or understanding of other traditions. We are a multi-racial society with am increasing number of mixed weddings. Some of us will have made an effort to know exactly what is expected of us and why when invited to British Asian weddings.

ThatRoseBear · 12/02/2024 09:51

anyolddinosaur · 12/02/2024 09:01

It is racist to assume that " white British" people have no knowledge or understanding of other traditions. We are a multi-racial society with am increasing number of mixed weddings. Some of us will have made an effort to know exactly what is expected of us and why when invited to British Asian weddings.

This isn't everyone's assumption. I have white British friends that know a lot about my culture because they are genuinely interested.

Mirabai · 12/02/2024 10:22

anyolddinosaur · 12/02/2024 09:01

It is racist to assume that " white British" people have no knowledge or understanding of other traditions. We are a multi-racial society with am increasing number of mixed weddings. Some of us will have made an effort to know exactly what is expected of us and why when invited to British Asian weddings.

You’d think someone in a “multiracial society” would know better than to label a random generalisation about white people “racism”.

SusieLawson · 12/02/2024 10:53

anyolddinosaur · 12/02/2024 09:01

It is racist to assume that " white British" people have no knowledge or understanding of other traditions. We are a multi-racial society with am increasing number of mixed weddings. Some of us will have made an effort to know exactly what is expected of us and why when invited to British Asian weddings.

I have a couple of Asian friends and I live in an area most people are white British, and I wouldn't have a clue what to do at an Indian wedding. Although I know that India is a large country with many cultures itself. Such as many in Goa are Catholic.

EmeraldA129 · 12/02/2024 10:54

If it was a tradition surely it would be to give them some money back for all their outlays paying for the wedding… but you paid for the wedding yourself, so that tradition doesn’t stand & you should be given the money. Your DH should discuss this with his DM himself.

Nantescalling · 12/02/2024 11:49

anothernameagain1 · 09/02/2024 14:20

British Indian here. Historically and traditionally a wedding was a big expense and you will notice that at all weddings gifts of money is given, usually handed to the mother ( of bride or groom depending whose side the guest is from). This helped pay for the wedding and when next wedding in the family came up, the same was done to that family member to help pay for that wedding.

You may also have noticed you MIL handing out envelopes to the gift givers. This is usually the same amount money coming back. I have often gifted £10/£20/£50 (depending on closeness) handed to mother, then get same amount back in an envelope from mother.

I have often discussed this with my own mother plus my sisters (away from wedding party and in chat about life in general way) but 'it is the done thing' and shows love and respect.

Do you mean a guest offers a gift to the couple but the bride's mother gives them back he same mount in an envelope. Net result zero gift?