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To hate him with a passion?

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HelpIcantfindaname · 08/02/2024 16:56

Back story - Ex hubby & I took out a policy for decreasing mortgage cover when our DD was born 15 years ago in both of our names.
I'd bought the house before I met him, it's always been in my name. I've always paid the mortgage, & actually all of the other bills as he worked very few hours in a low paid job. Even when DD started school & he could have upped his hours he chose not to. He spent most of his time playing on his computer.

EX H left to live with OW when DD was 7.

He wanted me to cancel the mortgage insurance policy as he didn't want his name on it. I wanted to keep it as it meant DDs home was secure if either of us passed.

Fast forward to now - I have Stage 4 cancer & prognosis is about 10mths. I had to take ill health retirement. I never expected to be living off my pension while still paying a mortgage, money is tight. So I put in a claim for the mortgage insurance, only to find out ex H is entitled to half.

If DD wanted to live with him after I died I'd set up a trust fund, but she doesnt. She wants to stay in the house she's always lived in with her step dad & step brother. It's closer to her school & friends, & also her grown up siblings & their kids. Ex H has let her down so many times over the years, she's not keen on visiting anymore & knows he's unreliable.

Ex H originally said he wouldn't take the money. He knows its for DDs security. I'm having to dip into DDs University fund for living expenses now, with still having a mortgage to pay.

He says he's entitled to it cos he didn't take much when we divorced. Maintainance has always been paid but a very low amount, he doesn't treat DD to anything. He only put curtains in her room at his last year & she still doesn't have a proper quilt. He hasn't said he will spend the money on DD, he wants it for himself.

I don't want to give this excuse for a man a penny. Yet he's gona get £30k for nothing. He's basically cashing in on the fact I'm dying. He owns his house, has a car & still lives with the woman he left for. He doesn't need this money. We do. DD won't speak to him because he's shown money is more important to him than her security. And even though he knows she wants nothing to do with him if he takes the money he still wants it. To him it's worth losing his relationship with his only child.

I'm seeing a solicitor but I don't think we will get far.

Has anyone ever been in a similar situation?

AIBU to hate him with a passion?

OP posts:
KnickerlessParsons · 11/02/2024 22:02

I think the money will be paid to my account as I pay the premium each month & always have done. But I'd be breaking the law if I didn't give him his half.

I wasn't sure whether or not to post this, but here goes...
With all the sympathy in the world, if you're terminally ill, does it actually matter if you break the law? 💐

PurpleBugz · 11/02/2024 22:06

KnickerlessParsons · 11/02/2024 22:02

I think the money will be paid to my account as I pay the premium each month & always have done. But I'd be breaking the law if I didn't give him his half.

I wasn't sure whether or not to post this, but here goes...
With all the sympathy in the world, if you're terminally ill, does it actually matter if you break the law? 💐

Op I'd say the same. It's not an immoral crime is it? If you won't be alive to answer to it what can they do?

Falloffgirl · 11/02/2024 22:50

OP I don't post often but this is such an awful situation to be in. I am so sorry for your diagnosis and hope you manage to make the most of the time you have left.

Your Ex is a twat of the highest order but you know that.

One question, and sorry if it's been asked and answered but is it worth telling the mortgage company of his plans and that the mortgage will not be paid off fully? They may be able to offer legal advice especially if it means they won't get their money.

Sodndashitall · 12/02/2024 07:30

KnickerlessParsons · 11/02/2024 22:02

I think the money will be paid to my account as I pay the premium each month & always have done. But I'd be breaking the law if I didn't give him his half.

I wasn't sure whether or not to post this, but here goes...
With all the sympathy in the world, if you're terminally ill, does it actually matter if you break the law? 💐

Honestly I'd do that. You can't be prosecuted if you're not alive and he'd have to take the estate to court for it.
Just do that

MyopicBunny · 12/02/2024 08:48

I agree. Make it as hard as possible for him to get that money and it won't be such an attraction if he has to start paying out solicitors fees to even get it.

SwordToFlamethrower · 12/02/2024 09:15

FancyJapflack · 08/02/2024 17:39

I’d be tempted to kill him.

Yep me too.

Britpop123 · 12/02/2024 09:15

KnickerlessParsons · 11/02/2024 22:02

I think the money will be paid to my account as I pay the premium each month & always have done. But I'd be breaking the law if I didn't give him his half.

I wasn't sure whether or not to post this, but here goes...
With all the sympathy in the world, if you're terminally ill, does it actually matter if you break the law? 💐

It does if it leaves a problem, legal challenge, court etc for her daughter and husband to deal with. I wouldn’t put it past the ex to continue to pursue this

EmeraldA129 · 12/02/2024 10:59

AnneLovesGilbert · 08/02/2024 17:02

Oh my love, I don’t even know what to say apart from he’s a hateful bastard and I’m beyond sorry for what you’re going through 💐💐💐

You sound so together and brave, I’m in awe.

This! I’m so sorry you’re going through all this op, but very glad you divorced this horrible man & got to spend your life with a much better one.

Nantescalling · 12/02/2024 12:21

HelpIcantfindaname · 08/02/2024 17:31

I hope Karma does get him. He says his parents, sister & girlfriend all back his decision. DD feels like she's losing all that side of her family as none of them must care about her.

The solicitor we rang yesterday wanted £1k upfront just to open a case. I then spoke to Macmillan who have put us in touch with solicitors who give cancer patients a free first consultation to see if there is a case. But I'm not sure how soon I'll get that consultation. And now ex h is messaging saying if I don't agree to him having half they don't pay out at all, & he has to know by Monday as he has to ring the mortgage insurance lady.

If I'd not got cancer I'd have worked till I was 65 paying the mortgage from my salary each month & there'd be no payout.

Firstly, I am so sorry to hear about your health. I have a son with stage 4 cancer too. He was told he had a year to live 5 years ago an he is going strong. I think you should talk to the insurance lady today so she has both sides of the story. He might have just made that up in any case. I wonder if it's rue that his family agree with him. If that's just what he says, I would talk to his Mum. Your daughter is her grandaughter so don't you think she must have some feelings about her future.

HelpIcantfindaname · 12/02/2024 13:32

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stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 14:23

@HelpIcantfindaname I hope that goes viral!!

Caroparo52 · 12/02/2024 15:15

Only saving grace is that your dd knows who has loved her unconditionally her whole life and which parent is a fucking cunt hasn't. You can't buy respect and love.

WhatWhereWho · 12/02/2024 15:27

Since you have posted details here. It might be worth discussing with your family what the pros and cons of trying to get press attention are in terms of either raising funds or hopefully convincing your scumbag ex backing off. There are possible negatives but if all of you have the energy it might have the desired effect.

Am so sorry that you are all facing this situation

GoldEagle · 12/02/2024 15:43

Sorry, I cannot offer any practical advice. Your ex h is an arsehole of the highest order, but I would not deal with him directly, speak through official channels only. I despair of the human race sometimes. All the best, I hope someone can help you resolve this.

FatPrincess · 12/02/2024 16:43

HelpIcantfindaname · 11/02/2024 21:36

@FatPrincess
I didn't sign a contract making him entitled to half, at least I didn't realise I had. I always thought the money would go straight to the mortgage lender. If I'd known this I would have just cancelled the policy & lost out when he left. Although only in December when I first discovered this I spoke to him about it & he said he wouldn't take the money cos he wasn't an arsehole.

Dd needed to know about the money because of the things I'd said I'd buy/pay for when the mortgage was paid off. She needs a maths tutor but now we can't afford one. I've told her dad that, he hasn't offered to pay once he's got the money, or put anything towards university. Spending on himself is not heresy as someone said upthread. Its what he told me. I told DD she should speak to him. She says she feels too let down.

DH is brilliant with her, they have a very good relationship. On our first holiday she watched him playing with his DS in the swimming pool & said 'I wish my dad played with me.' She was 7 years old. Her dad never played with her when he lived here, despite looking after her when I was at work. I don't think I've destroyed their relationship - he's managed that himself.

Fair enough. If he's done a u turn on what he said then that's pretty crap. It's a horrible situation all round. I'd try and treasure my time with DD but no doubt it's difficult knowing he'll be taking this money. I agree that you should just spend it on the mortgage if you can.

HelpIcantfindaname · 12/02/2024 20:49

I spoke to the insurance lady today. The money will be halved & paid into each of pur accounts if/when I agree.

Even if I don't agree, he gets his half & mine is paid to my beneficiaries when I die.

My oldest daughter set up the gofundme but they've stopped donations until we edit it what it says. Someone complained so we have to take out the bits where it says 'DDs dad'. Didn't really think he could stoop any lower. It probably won't be working again till tomorrow now.

OP posts:
ReadingSoManyThreads · 12/02/2024 20:54

HelpIcantfindaname · 12/02/2024 20:49

I spoke to the insurance lady today. The money will be halved & paid into each of pur accounts if/when I agree.

Even if I don't agree, he gets his half & mine is paid to my beneficiaries when I die.

My oldest daughter set up the gofundme but they've stopped donations until we edit it what it says. Someone complained so we have to take out the bits where it says 'DDs dad'. Didn't really think he could stoop any lower. It probably won't be working again till tomorrow now.

Shame on him.

Never paid into the policy or mortgage - he's a parasite.

stomachameleon · 12/02/2024 20:58

@HelpIcantfindaname reword it. Everyone will know who and what you are talking about. Don't be bullied.

Throwawayme · 12/02/2024 22:42

Post once the go fund me is accepting donations again plz 💐

Flickersy · 12/02/2024 22:57

Please be wary of giving money on here. I'm sure people mean well but still.

And MN says "We only allow fundraising for registered charities to be promoted on our Talk boards - and these threads should be posted on the charities noticeboard. This is in the interest of protecting our users as we aren't able to vouch for or endorse individuals running crowdfunding campaigns or anything along those lines." (see talk guidelines).

Fionaville · 12/02/2024 23:03

I hate him too. I hope the collective power of hate from anybody reading your OP, brings karma to his door quickly.
I'm really sorry that life is so unfair 💐

JimnJoyce · 13/02/2024 10:38

the Go Fund Me page is accepting donations again

MILTOBE · 13/02/2024 10:51

It's a horrible situation, OP.

What exactly is the GoFundMe for?

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Sorry to hijack your thread briefly there, OP.

sl0th · 13/02/2024 13:46

I'm so sorry OP, what an utter scumbag he is 😠

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