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Wedding guest issues, WWYD?

449 replies

2024Bride · 07/02/2024 00:23

I'm getting married this year, tricky situation has developed where one of the guests also attends a gym that I go to. I have walked in to the gym this week and said guest was there but completely unaware that I had walked in behind her and her friend. I hear their conversation and basically this guest is having an affair with another guest who is invited with his wife! I am in shock. I won't go into detail in case it's outing, but they won't be aware that one another is invited to the wedding yet, only the gym guest out of the 2 has had their invite up to now. I have told my DP I don't want them at the wedding now, but how on earth do I explain that when it comes around given that these are people who are close enough to be expecting an invite! It's none of my business what they do I get that, but they both have husbands and wives that this would shatter! What do I even do? I don't want them at my wedding, I feel awful not telling their partners as they are both close to us (not related). WWYD? I wish I was wrong but it was definitely what was being discussed, and there are reasons that I 100% know which man she was talking about which I won't say on here, and also what she has been getting up to with him 🤯🤯

OP posts:
Nothavingfunrightnow · 09/02/2024 07:05

If a dear friend if mine knew my partner was cheating on me but did not tell me, I'd be extremely hurt. I'd feel it was a betrayal.

HMINT · 09/02/2024 07:14

As you already said in your post. It’s none of your business.
Had you’d not overheard you’d be none the wiser. So, pretend you haven’t and carry on with everything.

themusingsofaninsomniac · 09/02/2024 07:33

Are you sure you got it right?

Seems odd to me this woman would be openly having a chat with a mate about it (who could reveal her secret) in a public place where anyone (you) has the ability to walk in and hear word for word such a sensitive conversation?

You say you got it 100%.. so they must have been loud and not subtle at all about it if so.. maybe their partners are accepting of it if that's the case - hardly sounds discreet

I do think the partners will be wondering why you didn't invite them. I'd prioritise them in this if you wish to maintain a friendship.. maybe just allude to the fact they need to speak to their other halves.. then puts the ball in their court

DillDanding · 09/02/2024 07:41

It’s not your business. Invite them as normal.

I’d completely avoid trying to be involved in any judgement or drama. It sounds rather childish.

elizzza · 09/02/2024 07:44

Honestly your wedding is not really the point here! Think about it from the innocent partners’ perspective. Most likely this will all come eventually, and they’ll start to think back on things, like oh god is that why we were uninvited to @2024Bride‘s wedding? Has everyone known all along??

Either you tell the partners and let them decide if their partners can come to the wedding (and accept that one or both of them might forgive their partner and want to stay together, and then it’s not up to you to exclude them), or you do nothing.

I am quite intrigued what you could overhear in the gym without being seen that would make it obvious there was an affair going on - was she really saying “I shagged X again last night and his wife still has no idea!” in the middle of the gym??

navigatingmy20s · 09/02/2024 07:46

Oh dear! I would tell her that you overheard her conversation and you don’t feel comfortable her coming anymore, and she will have to find a reason to her husband as to why they can’t go anymore. I would also mention it to the man and say you’re aware about the affair and that he will no longer be invited!

Takemethere · 09/02/2024 07:59

easilydistracted1 · 07/02/2024 00:41

I'd tell the man she is having an affair that if would be best to let his mistress know she's no longer welcome. Hopefully he'll now out too. You can't have him and his wife there if you know about the affair but have disinvited her not him. Or make sure everyone knows who is invited through casual conversation

^ This is perfect. Let them tell their respective partners why they are not attending and you can also give them a date to tell their wife/husband by before you tell them

saffy2 · 09/02/2024 08:03

2024Bride · 07/02/2024 01:24

Can I just ask the people who are saying it's nothing to do with me how they would feel if their good friends knew that your DH was shagging another good friend who regularly end up in the same circles, and they didn't tell you...would you be OK with that? It's a genuine question as that's the situation I'm in. It's not even just about my wedding, it's about 2 sets of friends and I'm right in the middle now I've walked in on what I did. So no need in saying it's not about me, I'm not making it about me. I dont know what the hell to do given that these people are our friends.

But you’re not suggesting telling the partners, you’re suggesting just not inviting them all to your wedding. If you were saying, I’ve heard this so I’m going to tell the partners AIBU, that would be different. But you’re saying I’ve heard this and don’t like it so I’m going to uninvited them all to my wedding. Which is a bit weird, the people having an affair aren’t going to say yeah we aren’t invited because I’m shagging x and nowhere have you said you want to tell the partners about it or why they are no longer invited? I don’t get it!

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 09/02/2024 08:05

OP, by uninviting the couples, the ones being cheated on are being punished by association, which isn't fair.
These are grown-ups, you can have your wedding with them ans stay out of it. Or have the wedding then mention after.

They'll be meeting up/snagging between now and your wedding anyway, so your wedding has nothing to do with the affair.

Would you ban your best friend/sibling if you found out they were cheating?

It's not for you to police.
Your options are to say something or not.

Your wedding has no bearing on the affair, don't associate the two.

AnonoMisss · 09/02/2024 08:14

2024Bride · 07/02/2024 01:24

Can I just ask the people who are saying it's nothing to do with me how they would feel if their good friends knew that your DH was shagging another good friend who regularly end up in the same circles, and they didn't tell you...would you be OK with that? It's a genuine question as that's the situation I'm in. It's not even just about my wedding, it's about 2 sets of friends and I'm right in the middle now I've walked in on what I did. So no need in saying it's not about me, I'm not making it about me. I dont know what the hell to do given that these people are our friends.

Have you spoke to husband? If its both your friends and it will affect you both should joint decision.

determinedtomakethiswork · 09/02/2024 08:30

Out of the cheating couple, are you better friends with them or with their partners?

LightsCameraBloodyDoSomething · 09/02/2024 08:32

2024Bride · 07/02/2024 01:24

Can I just ask the people who are saying it's nothing to do with me how they would feel if their good friends knew that your DH was shagging another good friend who regularly end up in the same circles, and they didn't tell you...would you be OK with that? It's a genuine question as that's the situation I'm in. It's not even just about my wedding, it's about 2 sets of friends and I'm right in the middle now I've walked in on what I did. So no need in saying it's not about me, I'm not making it about me. I dont know what the hell to do given that these people are our friends.

No, I would not be OK with that and would drop that person as a 'friend' if i found it they knew and didn't tell me. I would see it as their loyalty was definitely not to me and they were willing to collude with my cheating husband to keep me in the dark. That may be a choice you make if, say, you are exceptionally close to or have a real obligation to the cheater (e.g. they're your child - in which case you may choose other methods of dealing with it) and not at all to the one cheated on, because I realise there are complicating factors in life, but by and large letting people know the truth about their own lives is the right thing to do.

I really sympathise with you, its a horrible position to be put in but, to me, the answer is clear - you tell both innocent partners exactly what you overheard and let them make up their own minds. They may well choose to shoot the messenger, unfortunately (which is why it's such an awful position) but you run the risk of losing them either way and at least this way your conscience is clear.

You'll get a lot of people on here telling you to keep your mouth shut and continue to allow your friends to be disrespected, have their health put at risk and be made fools of but I have never quite grasped the logic or morality of that advice. It's not even self-serving (see above!)

LAMPS1 · 09/02/2024 08:35

I know it’s not easy to think on your feet in a situation like that where you walk in on a private conversation, but it would have the more honest thing to do to have made your presence (and shock at what you heard ) very clear right there and then.

However, your instinct at the time was that this was not your business, it was a conversation you shouldn’t have heard so you shrunk away from any confrontation ( I would have done the same by the way) I do therefore think that you should continue to ignore this situation now.

There is a lot to consider ……
You only have a tiny snapshot of the bigger picture. Maybe she was bragging or even telling her mate lies.
You don’t know the story from the other 3 people involved.
Your interference might make things worse
It’s very possible, in those few seconds, you might have misheard or got the wrong end of the stick.
The affair might be naturally over by the time of your wedding
Their partners might already know and be wanting to keep it private
They might decline your invitation anyway …or just not turn up.

It’s a tricky situation for you OP. Good luck on your decision.

JustMeShoppingAgain · 09/02/2024 08:40

I don't think I'd have been able to help myself from saying something when I overheard
"Oh my god this is going to be awkward at my wedding"

Rosesarecolourful · 09/02/2024 08:48

In this situation I would be the messenger and tell both the faithful partners what I heard. As someone who has been cheated on it saves a lot of heart ache in the long run as the truth will eventually come out anyway so why not nip it in the bud straight away

JellyfishandShells · 09/02/2024 09:18

Two close work friends were invited to my wedding - one had had a long affair with another colleague and the other was now embroiled with him, despite warnings from the first that he would string her along as well with promises that he would leave his dead marriage once the children were old enough etc etc. The same old story. The two women were friends, it wasn’t a bitter response by the first who had moved on and remained cordial with the man, though cynical about him. He was charming, though I didn’t find him at all attractive.

The second asked if this man could be invited as ‘they didn’t usually have the opportunity to be openly partners at an occasion ‘ ( !! ) I was a bit taken aback as the first would be attending with her now husband ( she hadn’t been cheating on a partner at the time of her affair) My husband, normally quite reticent about commenting on others’ love lives, was appalled and said it was making a mockery of the vows we were about to take in front of them and he didn’t want the unlikely Lothario there.

So I refused, she said she wouldn’t come without him, I said I was sorry to hear that but the decision stood. She said she would come alone.

On the day, she turned up with him anyway which was bizarre and awkward. I introduced them to my parents as ‘ this is B, who I’ve mentioned and this is X, another colleague’

He strung her along for another 4 years, until he did leave his wife - or rather she threw him out after the junior colleague he had also been having an affair with ( the level of subterfuge must have been huge ! ) grew impatient and contacted the wife who had no idea, just thought he was overworked and played an awful lot of golf in his rare time off whilst she dealt with the children.

My husband’s comment to me rang true - it wasn’t just them coming to a party, it was attending and hypocritically witnessing wedding vows.

Pipsquiggle · 09/02/2024 09:22

FFS this isn't about the wedding!!!

@2024Bride what have you decided to do? Speak or keep quiet? What does your fiance say?

If my DH was having an affair with someone in our social circle and I found out that a friend knew about it all of this and didn't tell me, I would be mortified.

I would talk to gym bunny. Ask her if what you heard is true. Tell her she has to come clean or you will tell her partner or her fling's wife.

You need to give them a chance to own up. You also should do this discreetly as I have known couples, where one of them has had an affair, to stay together.

Hoglet70 · 09/02/2024 09:39

Keep out of it. The messenger always gets shot.

PinkPanther50 · 09/02/2024 09:49

i think you have two options, 1 ignore the knowledge you have about the affair, invite both couples to your wedding and what will be will be or 2 tell those being cheated on that they are indeed being cheated on.

If you don’t invite good friends then you end up being the baddie, if you tell the cheaters to decline then the innocent ones who will eventually find out the truth will hate you for not telling them, if you tell the innocent ones without solid proof then they may hate you.
I would probably invite both couples and keep quiet unless I had solid evidence

Peachy2005 · 09/02/2024 09:55

I would have to let the friends know but in full knowledge that I would probably lose the friends…but I would still feel obliged to tell them. I have done this in a few (non-cheating but difficult) situations and I have lost the friends but my conscience is clear and I have no regrets. I always ask myself “would I want someone to tell me” and if the answer is “yes”, I’ll tell them. What they do with the information is up to them. If they disbelieve it or badmouth me or just cant look me in the eye again, I don’t care. I will get over it because I believe it’s the “right thing”, even if there were consequences to me for telling.

JennyCQ · 09/02/2024 09:58

Someone I’m no longer friends with confessed to me that she cheated on her boyfriend (who I was also friends with at the time), not sure what she expected in telling me but I told her she either told him by the end of the week or I would and she ended up telling him. They stayed together in an open relationship for around two years after this happened, and she would often have hookups but get mad if he did the same. If I could go back in time I’d do the same thing though, I wouldn’t want to find out that one of my friends knew my husband was cheating and decided not to tell me.

QueCat · 09/02/2024 10:00

Here is what I would do … I’d tell both affair partners I know what’s happening and they have a certain amount of time to tell their partners before I do.

The wedding is kind of irrelevant at this point, this is ppls lives. If they’re good enough friends to expect an invite then they’re good enough friends for you to not keep a massive secret from. You never know, they could both be in open relationships or maybe the partner is accepting of their unfaithful spouse. But at the end of the day they should have kept their mouths shut about it if they didn’t want anyone to find out!

Cca · 09/02/2024 10:13

It’s an awful position to be in and have that knowledge. However, you only heard guest 1 talking and that was by accident, the other people involved may already know about the affair or not want to know. You’ve already invited guest 1 so can’t really take it back without a very good excuse, or you don’t invite the other couple(lack of space, budget etc) or you invite everyone and hope they will behave like grown ups. I understand you want to spare the partners getting hurt but without sitting down with everyone and discussing their marriages, the news could make everything worse. This affair could be about to end, or they could be swingers, the partners could be having affairs too, you’ve only heard guest 1, so only have one persons story. I hope that whatever happens you have a wonderful wedding and a happy marriage x

Grammarnut · 09/02/2024 10:15

Their affairs, that you accidentally learned about, are not your affair. Just invite them all. To do otherwise is to make the spouses suspicious and it is not your right to break up someone else's marriage, the ins and outs of which you know nothing about. Forget what you heard.

Grammarnut · 09/02/2024 10:18

QueCat · 09/02/2024 10:00

Here is what I would do … I’d tell both affair partners I know what’s happening and they have a certain amount of time to tell their partners before I do.

The wedding is kind of irrelevant at this point, this is ppls lives. If they’re good enough friends to expect an invite then they’re good enough friends for you to not keep a massive secret from. You never know, they could both be in open relationships or maybe the partner is accepting of their unfaithful spouse. But at the end of the day they should have kept their mouths shut about it if they didn’t want anyone to find out!

That is not what the OP should do. She has no right to tell anyone their spouse is having an affair. It's none of her business and she could do untold harm, walk into a situation she knows very little (nothing!) about and without doubt will lose the friendship of these people and anyone they care to tell what she did. Just invite them all and forget what was accidentally heard (and may have been misunderstood).