Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Grandparents pleasing themselves

699 replies

WanderingScotty · 07/02/2024 00:01

My MIL and FIL look after DS once a week and occasionally at the weekend and have done since he was 1 (now 4.5). (They used to look after him twice a week but we already reduced this because of this issue).

MIL and FIL are fantastic with DS in many ways - he loves spending time with them and they love having him. He’s very lucky to have them.

We have always had some “ground rules” for when they look after him - e.g watch sugar intake, limit screen time etc. It’s not strict, essentially everything in moderation and we just ask them to keep us informed so we can adapt as needed.

MIL and FIL would admit themselves they are not the healthiest of eaters and have no desire to change this. This has caused confusion in the past where they’ve given DS something they think is healthy but we wouldn’t think is (e.g ultra processed, low calorie). FIL also doesn’t take well to being told what to do and can sometimes be a bully (which I admit gets my back up and makes it hard for me to back down). MIL is very unconfrontational and will go along with anything even if she disagrees to avoid an argument (but will make subtle comments so we know if she doesn’t agree).

FIL wants free rein to do what he wishes with DS when they look after him. He wants to spoil DS as that’s “his right as a grandparent”. Mainly this is give him sweets, chocolate, ice cream etc, buy him any toy DS wants etc. Whilst we understand this to a degree FIL looks after DS too often to spoil him as much as he wants to. My mum also looks after DS and it’s not fair on her if she follows what we ask when she too would like to spoil him more. More importantly, this isn’t fair on DS as he gets confused or upset when there isn’t a consistent approach and takes sugar crashes after eating too much sugar.

DS is getting older and is able to understand and verbalise more. This afternoon, he came home and told us he had 3 chocolate treats which they hadn’t told us about. We asked them and they denied this. DS insisted he was telling the truth so we questioned them more.

FIL got defensive asking if we’d been quizzing DS after they’d left - we did but only after DS initially told us. This has led to a heated discussion tonight as FIL says he should be able to do what he wants, he’s raised 2 boys who turned out fine, DS is only with them one day, we’re imagining the sugar crashes etc. He also thinks we should trust them and not question them (despite saying he doesn’t want to go along with what we’re asking).

We have outlined the reasons we’re asking them to follow our rules. Ultimately he’s our son but we have them there because it’s what we think is best for him. MIL is agreeable but FIL is grudgingly backing down. It’ll likely raise its head again in a few months as this seems to be the way it goes.

AIBU for expecting them to follow our wishes or am I getting too bothered about it?

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 12:54

TheBayLady · 07/02/2024 10:52

End the arrangement and pay for your own childcare, stop using them as babysitters at the weekend. Just so you are aware to do this will not only hurt them but hurt your Son but all the matters is that you get control 100%. Good luck

She is paying...

Popatop · 07/02/2024 12:54

Be grateful they have him once a week! Would love too many treats being the only issue!

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 12:56

Silentnight87 · 07/02/2024 10:57

I think your updates have been helpful in providing more balance. It's simply not a case of a few chocolates. It's junk food on top of further junk food. I can understand some, but not to the extent you have described. It sets a precedent. It also seems likely they're trying to be sneaky about it? Are they asking him to lie at all?

Given he also has stomach issues under investigation, it would be imperative for any caring grandparent to listen to dietary advice not ignore/fight it. I'm sorry OP but they are not providing loving/caring environment if they are feeding food which they knowingly understand will give him tummy issues. Chocolate contains milk- you allude to that possibly being an issue.

They can show love or spoil him in another way- take him out etc.

You've not mentioned you'd husbands stance on this at all. This is really his battle not yours.

You've tried to get them to listen- they don't. I would put him in nursery. Set boundaries before it gets worse and your child gets older and can take sides...It won't just be simple issues such as food.

He told the truth to his parents in front of GP and they flatly contradicted him

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 12:57

Tbry24 · 07/02/2024 11:18

They love him and are spoiling him rotten, that’s what we would all hope grandparents would be like.

Oh dear.

<failed>

FancyJapflack · 07/02/2024 12:58

NoOrdinaryMorning · 07/02/2024 00:40

I wonder if everyone would be responding differently if OP's child had a serious allergy or intolerance!

But he doesn’t.

Nannyfannybanny · 07/02/2024 12:58

I fall into the granny category. Started looking after my GC 28 years ago. First DGS was a nightmare, only wanted to eat cereals pandered to. When he was 14,he said there was no food, nothing to eat. Showed him large fridge freezer, and larder. He said that wasn't "food" it was only ingredients!! Child car for the last ones from babies, now 12,14 (coming this weekend) I am veggie,eat well and sensibly most of the time. Enjoy some chocolate and wine. DGKs pretty much want McDonald's. We agreed they are not my kids, I abide by most rules. Banning certain foods causes eating issues. (Have experienced nursing them) these gks have some health issues and allergies. But when I am loco parentis their mum trusts me ,am sure she knows sometimes they get away with things.

Violet1964 · 07/02/2024 12:59

I agree with you!! I would be angry to be honest. I don't understand what people don't get about having rules and boundaries for your own children and how you choose to bring them up!! Those are your rules of parenting and if anyone can't stick to them I'd remove them from seeing them on their own! If

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 13:00

IMustDoMoreExercise · 07/02/2024 11:22

Yes, seriously. Sugar is a killer. Once kids get the taste for sugar and other unhealthy food, it is very difficult to get them off it.

Diabetes and obesity kills.

I had masses of sugar when I was a kid.

We had a 'lemonade man' deliver fizzy drinks.
I had a few sweets every day.
I ate lots of biscuits.

I didn't see a dentist till I was 7 (horrific experience)

I eat way too much rubbish to this day. Even though I'm old enough to know better.

Good habits need to be fostered very early

Oranesandlemons · 07/02/2024 13:01

We live away from family and are currently planning a move back home because we’re desperate for the sort of support you describe. from my perspective there could be a lot worse than grandparents who adore you child, who your child adores, who help out so frequently with childcare and enjoy giving him a few treats. Think about how things would look if you didn’t have the weekend childcare support and if you were putting your son in nursery an extra day a week and then you have to choose what you prefer. I don’t think it’s fair to control the way they care for your child any more than you already are. It sounds like all of you are very very lucky!

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 13:01

Teateaandmoretea · 07/02/2024 11:27

I think there is a tacit agreement in most families that the parents wishes have to be respected. One day a week is a lot. I remember when my niece and nephew were tiny my parents following instructions that they were 🙄 about. They were fed baby food till they were about 2 for example. Mum was like ‘I get on with my DIL and it’s the way I want it to continue’.

MIL went through dd1’s full menu as a baby me. She eats healthily, cooks well and realised I was puzzled/ not entirely engaging 😂 and stopped doing it. I don’t think she did it at all for dd2.

But equally if they are offering free childcare it makes it tricky to dictate. It’s whether you can put up with it for the next 8 months as it doesn’t sound like they are going to change.

It's not free...

Cath082 · 07/02/2024 13:02

They are grandparents providing a safe loving environment for their grandchild and you are getting worked up over 3 chocolates - YABU!
Truthfully they probably lie to you all the time because they are too afraid to be honest which is sad.

OceanicBoundlessness · 07/02/2024 13:02

When my kids were little I might have agreed with you. With the hindsight of having teens/young adults I think let them get on with it.

What I think is more damaging is the situation you've got where the grandparents are lying and your child may feel he has to be economical with the truth.
I would take that dynamic out of the equation by loosening up.

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 13:04

luxuria84 · 07/02/2024 12:15

My great auntie used to give me sugar cubes to crunch on as a treat.

I have not one single filling 😇

I used to do that too

I don't have a back tooth that isn't filled 🙁

We all have anecdotes

ZiriForGood · 07/02/2024 13:05

YANBU, not at all, but it is easier for people responding here to kick you than think about what you really said.
I believe many grandparents in this thread would be appealed if they saw the reality, but they don't imagine your situation, they see their and they are afraid that young mum's would organise themselves on MN and try to deny them the pleasure of a single treat.

1 full day a week is being part of bringing your DS up, it shouldn't be just their pleasure and spoiling.
One option would be to adjust length of contact, so it would be ok for them to focus only on the pleasure part, at least until they understand that children talk, so they won't try to keep things from you and turn food-awkward situation into keeping secrets awkward.

Would your MIL be willing to start some silent changes motivated by the health concerns, without a big fuss, just behind the scenes?

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 13:06

Mrsjayy · 07/02/2024 12:33

of course NOBODY NEEDS sugar there is no need to be hysterical about it though.
sometimes a biscuit or a bit of cake is a nice thing to eat eating and food shouldn't just be about "Fuel and nutrition"sometimes a biscuit or whatever is just a nice experience even for 4 year olds.

Edited

THREE bars of chocolate?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 07/02/2024 13:07

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 13:00

I had masses of sugar when I was a kid.

We had a 'lemonade man' deliver fizzy drinks.
I had a few sweets every day.
I ate lots of biscuits.

I didn't see a dentist till I was 7 (horrific experience)

I eat way too much rubbish to this day. Even though I'm old enough to know better.

Good habits need to be fostered very early

Thank you for your honesty.

Really, most people on here are in denial over how much crap they and their kids eat and just use the "treat" or "moderation" excuse to say that it is all ok.

It really isn't.

BananaSplitsss · 07/02/2024 13:07

You sound ‘ that ‘ parent …

A suggestion: pay for childcare instead because clearly three chocolates is the end of the world.

I wish I had met my two grandfathers and indeed one of my grandmothers. They had all passed away many years before I was born.

My parents tell me how much they would have spoilt and loved us and that makes me sad.

No op, I think grandparents is not the right childcare option for you.

In my opinion you are being way too precious and need to lighten up with your PFB.

ManchesterLu · 07/02/2024 13:08

Isn't part of the fun of going to your grandparents' being able to have what you can't have at home? They're looking after your child for free?

Sooty20235 · 07/02/2024 13:08

Im so surprised at the responses you are getting on here! Childcare (free or not, family or not) is about being responsible for a child and therefore showing them responsible behaviour. There are huge issues with childhood obesity and unhealthy diets in this country, I would be horrified if my child was being fed excess sugary junk and treats, potentially contributing to a lifetime of unhealthy thoughts about food.

InShockHusbandLeaving · 07/02/2024 13:09

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2024 12:53

Not all of us, no.

Obviously everyone “grandparents” in their own way but, for some reason, I keep seeing ‘horrible grandma’ from Friday Night Dinner in my mind’s eye 😛

ImNotAsThinkAsYouDrunkIAm · 07/02/2024 13:09

BananaSplitsss · 07/02/2024 13:07

You sound ‘ that ‘ parent …

A suggestion: pay for childcare instead because clearly three chocolates is the end of the world.

I wish I had met my two grandfathers and indeed one of my grandmothers. They had all passed away many years before I was born.

My parents tell me how much they would have spoilt and loved us and that makes me sad.

No op, I think grandparents is not the right childcare option for you.

In my opinion you are being way too precious and need to lighten up with your PFB.

Once again for the people at the back.

She is paying them.

And it’s not three chocolates. It’s three bars of chocolate along with other snacks and a sugary lunch.

ImNotAsThinkAsYouDrunkIAm · 07/02/2024 13:10

ManchesterLu · 07/02/2024 13:08

Isn't part of the fun of going to your grandparents' being able to have what you can't have at home? They're looking after your child for free?

No. No they are not looking after her child for free.

Thedogsdindins · 07/02/2024 13:11

Our DS gets spoilt rotten at DH's parents house and he absolutely loves it and we don't begrudge it. His grandparents won't be around forever so we feel that it's important for him to have that bond now whilst he can.
Equally, I used to love going to my grandparents house because they always had biscuits and ice cream (stuff we never had at home)
Back down a little with the rules and let them all enjoy their time together.

whatsappdoc · 07/02/2024 13:13

3 Freddos or 3 huge Cadbury's fruit and nuts?
We identified our gps by their snacks. Kitkat grandma and Fruit Polo grandma. Happy days.

YouJustDoYou · 07/02/2024 13:16

My mum says the same, that it's her right to do with them what she wants when they're with her. So seeing as she can't respect simple wishes, they don't go stay.