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XL Bully + visitation

133 replies

Kipdfgy · 05/02/2024 16:25

Hello, posting here as I’m not sure where else to post this. I don’t think I’m being unreasonable.
My DD (10yo) sees her father once a month for a weekend, we don’t have a visitation order in place or anything like that. She has always lived with me.

Her dad has an XL bully, so far he hasn’t registered the dog as he has to pay for it..and can’t afford it at the moment. He says it’s on his list of things to do.

He lives with his mum, and she has 2 Alsatians and they are big dogs! The bully cannot be in the same room as the other dogs as they fight . So this bully spends most of its time in a bedroom. And they basically have the dogs on rotation as to when they have free roam of the house. It’s totally not fair on the dog, and although he does get walked I imagine the dog is harbouring lots of frustration.

So, quite rightly imo, I don’t want my daughter going down to the house anymore. I keep seeing deaths and injuries related to these dogs in the news and I of course want to protect my daughter and keep her out of any potential harm. I’ve had dogs before (not currently) but they’ve always been labs or small breeds.
I know any dog can be dangerous, but I was always told I was overreacting when I voiced my concerns about it the dogs.
I know for certain I am going to get a lot of abuse when I tell him why he cannot have her at the house or overnight. I don’t really care about that, what I am worried about though is him taking her there without my knowledge.

Should I report this to social services? I don’t know what to do to ensure that she can’t go there. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

OP posts:
Igotjelly · 05/02/2024 16:28

Well he’s missed the deadline to register for an exemption so the dog is now illegal.

I’m not again people owning XLs or any other dog (and know a couple who are lovely) but if you’re not comfortable that your child is safe then you’re absolutely right to prohibit visitation to his home.

Kipdfgy · 05/02/2024 16:35

It’s really difficult, I don’t really know the dogs temperament. Although, I am aware that the dog has had fights before, the dog was injured and I asked what happened. I don’t have a relationship
with him, we are civil for our daughters sake. I just don’t think I could ever forgive myself if something happened, god forbid!

OP posts:
ISpeakaDuolingo · 05/02/2024 16:37

You are right op, stand your ground. I hope he gets reported for the illegal dog.

LurchingTowardsYourFavouriteCity · 05/02/2024 16:37

Report the dog. Straight away. I don’t know why on earth you wouldn't.

Pollyannamex · 05/02/2024 16:38

I would not let my child go to that house with the dog as you describe. No way.

NewYearNewCalendar · 05/02/2024 16:39

Have you got a court order in place ordering visitation? Because while I absolutely would stop visitation if I were you, the legalities of it look very different depending on whether the courts are involved.

i would report to anyone who will listen, personally.

APurpleSquirrel · 05/02/2024 16:40

Why haven't you reported him already???

OpenEvening · 05/02/2024 16:40

I couldn’t give a shiny shit what the ‘it’s the owners, not the dogs’ folk say. There isn’t a chance in hell my child would be going to a household with an XL Bully. I wouldn’t be happy about two Alsatians roaming the house freely, either.

People are so bloody weird, prioritising dogs over children. Yes I would report to social services. 100%.

WeeOrcadian · 05/02/2024 16:40

I made it as far as the dogs fighting

No. Fucking. Way.

Let him to you to court over it.

And I'd be reporting the dog, personally, he can afford a dog like that but can't afford to register it? Bollocks

DrunkenElephant · 05/02/2024 16:41

Hell would freeze over before I let my child go to a house with an XL bully, never mind one that has shown aggression to other dogs and is cooped up in one room all day. It is a disaster waiting to happen.

Do not send your daughter there.

Woozywoozer · 05/02/2024 16:44

Report the dog.

He has ample opportunity to register it. He didn't, now it's illegal. And it fights. It's locked in a room most of the day.

It's a ticking time bomb.

Report the dog. Make some excuses for DD not to stay a few weeks

And hopefully it will be seized and put to sleep then she can go (if you trust the alsatians?)

Fionaville · 05/02/2024 16:45

Good God, don't send your daughter there!
The very fact that the dog is fighting other dogs in its house and spends so much time locked up in one room, tells you all you need to know about that dogs mentality. If it wasn't nuts before, it soon will be! Tell your ex that there is no way in hell your daughter is going into a house with an illegal dog.
It's illegal, I'd report it.

GoosieLucie · 05/02/2024 16:45

OpenEvening · 05/02/2024 16:40

I couldn’t give a shiny shit what the ‘it’s the owners, not the dogs’ folk say. There isn’t a chance in hell my child would be going to a household with an XL Bully. I wouldn’t be happy about two Alsatians roaming the house freely, either.

People are so bloody weird, prioritising dogs over children. Yes I would report to social services. 100%.

My sentiments exactly!

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 05/02/2024 16:46

I absolutely wouldn't allow my child anywhere near the dog and I would report it for not being registered

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 05/02/2024 16:49

I would tell him that she will not be visiting whilst he has an illegal dog.

Done2much · 05/02/2024 16:50

Hi OP, Whether or not he can afford to register the dog it's too late now, the deadline has passed and the dog is being kept illegally and should be reported

The dog is living with other dogs in a constantly volatile situation and it's highly likely someone will be injured possibly fatally

I would not allow any child of mine to spend time at that property

GladAllOver · 05/02/2024 16:51

I wish I hadn't read this. I'm dreading now watching the news in a few days and hearing about a girl that has been dreadfully injured or worse, and realise that I had read about here on MN.

So I'm begging you, please please don't send her into that danger.
You should really report the dog, but the priority is your daughters safety.

NamelessNancy · 05/02/2024 16:52

Failure to register the dog by the deadline is proof he's not a responsible owner. With the fighting between dogs and cooping them up in a room I wouldn't be sending my child.

BMW6 · 05/02/2024 16:52

Absolutely DO NOT allow your DD to go to anywhere where that dog is.

I wouldn't allow her near the GM house at all as the GM and your ex do not have your dd safety as a paramount.

Report the twat for having an unregistered XL bully.

todayshappening · 05/02/2024 16:52

I Wouldn't let my kid go there and I own an xl, but that's just common sense really regardless of the breed. If there's an aggressive dog at a property you wouldn't send your kid 🤷🏻‍♀️

Seas164 · 05/02/2024 16:53

This is a really good example of it's the owner not the dog. This is exactly how the attack incidents happen, it's really not rocket science, it's a lack of human braincells.

I wouldn't even want my child in a house with a golden retriever that was shut in a bedroom most of the time.

There is no chance on this earth that my child would be stepping a foot through that door, he can visit her at your house or on neutral ground while the dog remains in his care possession.

TwattingDog · 05/02/2024 16:53

Not social services as it isn't their purview if there's no child there, but I'd definitely report the unregistered XL bully to the police and the dog warden. Can be done online and anonymously to both parties via CrimeStoppers.

DarkDarkNight · 05/02/2024 16:54

It sounds like a recipe for disaster and I wouldn’t blame you at all for saying visitation needs to happen elsewhere.

3 big dogs cooped up in a room, only allowed to roam the house in shifts because they fight? Hell no that is not a healthy environment.

larkstar · 05/02/2024 16:54

Report it to the police first today and then social services second otherwise you are as irresponsible as him.

ChihuahuasREvil · 05/02/2024 16:56

Yeah, you’re unwilling to send your child to a house with three large powerful stressed out dogs who fight, I can understand why you wouldn’t want that to happen.