XL Bully + visitation

[Kipdfgy]

Hello, posting here as I’m not sure where else to post this. I don’t think I’m being unreasonable.
My DD (10yo) sees her father once a month for a weekend, we don’t have a visitation order in place or anything like that. She has always lived with me.

Her dad has an XL bully, so far he hasn’t registered the dog as he has to pay for it..and can’t afford it at the moment. He says it’s on his list of things to do.

He lives with his mum, and she has 2 Alsatians and they are big dogs! The bully cannot be in the same room as the other dogs as they fight . So this bully spends most of its time in a bedroom. And they basically have the dogs on rotation as to when they have free roam of the house. It’s totally not fair on the dog, and although he does get walked I imagine the dog is harbouring lots of frustration.

So, quite rightly imo, I don’t want my daughter going down to the house anymore. I keep seeing deaths and injuries related to these dogs in the news and I of course want to protect my daughter and keep her out of any potential harm. I’ve had dogs before (not currently) but they’ve always been labs or small breeds.
I know any dog can be dangerous, but I was always told I was overreacting when I voiced my concerns about it the dogs.
I know for certain I am going to get a lot of abuse when I tell him why he cannot have her at the house or overnight. I don’t really care about that, what I am worried about though is him taking her there without my knowledge.

Should I report this to social services? I don’t know what to do to ensure that she can’t go there. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.

Do not let her go there. You cannot turn the clock back if any of those 3 dogs attack you can't wish if only......Also just think of how much trauma the young lad in Jaywick will have to live with because he witnessed her Grandmother being mauled to death, this could be your child. Say no.

Absolutely not. Even if it wasn't fighting. Even if the dog was lovely. It can change in an instant. So not worth the risk.
Report him now.

Report him to the police for the unlicensed dog. No way would I allow my child to stay in that house.

I wouldn't let any child into that house, and if you think he will ignore your wishes I wouldn't let him see her, he hardly sounds like a responsible adult with an illegal, dangerous dog living a miserable existence trapped in a bedroom.
Stop contact and report the dog asap!
I know any dog can do harm, but not all dogs are physically capable of killing a person.

Please just report the dog because if it’s not your DD it will be someone else’s it kills. It could just as easily turn on DD’s dad or Grandma (as they are the ones keeping it in such poor conditions) and it would still be traumatic for your daughter to lose a relative that way, even if they are antisocial idiots. You’d be doing them a favour basically even though they wouldn’t appreciate it.

Not a fucking chance would I let my kids go into a home with an XL Bully, regardless of temperament. Over my dead body.

Sometimes things just click.

Whilst it’s true that the situation was as unsafe last month than it is this coming weekend any of us may have a sudden realisation of the situation and the dangers present.

May be news items about these dogs has shocked the OP? Made her realise?

Better late than never.

It would be 100% no from me. Stay strong. It’s an accident waiting to happen.

He’s a fu king total dick. Keep your daughter out of that house. Honestly OP. Report him and the dog.

Well the dog needs to be put down now as there's no way to make a non-registered dog legal since the deadline passed.

Surely you should report the existence of the dog and then it will be taken away and exterminated, solving that issue?

Having said that, I wouldn't want my child going to that house at all given the fecklessness and recklessness of the occupants.

Absolutely no way in hell I'd be letting my DD go anywhere near that house.
In my experience with German Shepherd's, they are wonderful with children, my boy is the best with my DD. But from the sounds of the household, those 2 GSDs are in protection mode, this is potentially why they are fighting the bully. GSDs are incredibly intuitive to other dogs energy's and they quite possibly feel the energy is off with the bully, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

The last thing you want is your dd being involved in the middle of one of those fights, quite honestly if they are having to shut dogs away they clearly have absolutely no control of the situation, or the dogs. And having no control over any dog is dangerous, especially ones with the XL bully nature and the size of GSDs. Plus they are all in heightened states in that environment which means they're probably all on the defence constantly, won't take much to trigger them into fight mode.

KEEP YOUR CHILD AWAY FROM THERE! Trust your instinct.

So he's keeping a large, powerful dog locked in a room. It'll be bored, frustrated and unhappy. It's almost irrelevant what breed it is, I'd never allow my DD in a house with this situation as it is a ticking time bomb!!
Report him. People like him are why legislation was necessary.

Big dogs being cooped up in a bedroom, even for a short-ish time, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Bloody hell you say no and if he questions it you say see you in court. You don't even have to muzzle these things in the home so the risk is massive.

Report the dog. Pretend to be a neighbour if you're worried about repercussions.

Presumably you’ve been happy enough to send her pre licensing so what’s changed? Apart from the exemption certificate all is as it has been. Not defending the dog - I would happily see them all pts.

I love dogs and I'm not one to believe all XL bullies are devil dogs just waiting to turn on you but I do agree this is a very concerning situation with 3 powerful dogs that don't get along in a smallish house and potentially getting upset and frustrated by improper care. That's just when a child who is not a full time member of the household is at risk.

If he hasn't registered the dog in time it does make me question if he has done other sensible things with all the dogs, like getting them proper medical care, putting in the time and energy to train and socialise them, getting expert advice on behaviour if needed. If its not licenced is it getting regular exercise at all or is it hidden indoors.

So yes I think you are right to stop him having dd at the house and if you can't trust him not to take her there stop him having her at all.

Report the dog because it's illegal. You may have to go to court to get visitation conditions put in place but personally I think I would prefer that even to the worry that my child would get mauled by an XL.

I would report it partly because it is law but also because it sounds like the dog has a really poor quality of life

An XL bully in a loving home with plenty of stimulation, good training, plenty of exercise and the ability to safely put it somewhere else if it is getting agitated, plus in full compliance of the law, then I'd be leaning towards YABU.

This situation? Absolutely not.

Dog is illegal.
You don't trust him not to take her to the house.
what the fuck op ?
there's no fucking way my kid would be seeing her DF in these circumstances.
Report the dog.
Let him do what he wants.
But NO. NO visits.

First of all I'm a dog lover, and I particularly love large dogs. However, there is no way I would visit a house that had to seperate their dogs due to aggression, never mind send my child there. I 100% would report this dog. Your ex sounds like an idiot - so does his mother for allowing this.

@Kipdfgy it's not difficult at all. Report the dog to the police today.

You’re able to keep your child away from this situation Op, but what about other visitors to this house. The huge risk that these dogs will manage to get out. You really do need to report the owners. I feel so sorry for the animals being kept in such awful conditions .