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DS not happy - I have to end the relationship don’t I

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GeoRicks · 05/02/2024 15:26

I’ll start with a little background, DS is 17, Y12. 6 years ago my husband passed away, it was sudden and DS and I were understandably devastated. It has been a long process of healing and really we will never fully heal, he was an incredible loving man and our life will always be worse off for not having him.
About a year after he passed we sent to a group for children who had lost a parent, all the kids were around 9-14 and well DS hated it!! We persisted with going for about a year and I met a dad who had a daughter who was little older than DS. Neither of them were really responding to the group, but for opposite reasons. DS was very much the world is awful and baking cakes with other kids like me won’t make that better. This man’s DD was very much the opposite, in she just said she was fine and didn’t feel the need to go.
We both stopped attending but kept in close touch, occasionally meeting for coffee as it was so lovely having someone who understood. I don’t drive so he had taken DS and I down to Manchester to go shopping a few times, he and DS went off together and I went with his daughter etc.
About June last year the nature of our relationship changed and we began dating. I approached it tactfully with DS and he seemed ok with it. We don’t live super close so initially we would just spend Sundays together. We both work 4 days so after a few months it progressed to all day Sunday and most of Monday together. We alternate who’s house we stay at. Over Christmas we spent a little more time together and took the kids out for a meal and bowling, did similar in October half term. In the holidays we always stayed at mine, DS and his DD are a little over a month apart in age but she is Y13 and DS Y12. She is more independent and doesn’t seem to mind her dad being gone for a few days. DS would have struggled.

Skip a head to yesterday, we were staying at my house this weekend and yesterday afternoon DS expressed he wasn’t well and asked if my partner could leave. Total non-issue he left no fuss. DS has seemed out of sorts but not really ill as such. Today he decided to stay off school too.
This morning he told me he doesn’t like my “boyfriend” staying the night. He told me the reasons are that he still views this as his family home as in his dad, him and I. He said it made him uncomfortable. I asked if he would prefer I went to his every Sunday night and he said not really, he doesn’t like being home alone much. He told me he doesn’t like that things have changed. He hasn’t outright said he wants me to end the relationship but it’s clear he doesn’t want me to be with this man around him and he’s my son so that makes it very difficult!!
I’m now thinking I need to end the relationship which is actually really upsetting; I do love him (although this is a relatively new feeling and of course I love my son more). I’ve found opening myself up to someone new really difficult and we have so much in common and he is a genuinely good lovely man. I tried so hard to approach this gently with DS, didn’t force him to do anything, didn’t rush in etc.
Partially thinking I need to wait until DS has moved out, he doesn’t plan to go to uni, but wants an apprenticeship which is local, so he would be at home for a bit longer then and I worry that if I got into a relationship just as he moved out he’d feel pushed away.
I’m feeling a little conflicted as while DS is my priority, I’ve really enjoyed this relationship and worry If not now - when?
I know realistically I just have to end things, DS comes first, but AIBU to be wondering if there is a way around this, that allows me to prioritise DS and have a life of my own?

OP posts:
jm9138 · 05/02/2024 20:46

MrsRachelDanvers · 05/02/2024 20:28

We don’t all feel the same. I lost one parent at 14 and another at 18. I don’t feel the same as you-so whether other posters have lost a parent is doesn’t make their opinion more valid than anyone else’s. 6 years is a long time. Her son is entitled to grieve for his father but not entitled to dictate how his mother goes forward with her life-especially as she gives the impression she is a loving and kind parent.

Exactly. We don’t all feel the same. But good you can share your experience and I can share mine but at least they are both perspectives based on experience. And we might just have to disagree that a perspective from personal experience may have more value to the OP.

I am not sure what you mean by ‘don’t feel the same’ though. You don’t feel the same that it can be a sadness that follows you through life? Or that she should not think her son ‘should get over it’ or is controlling? Or that she should not try to work with her son to get in a better place with his grief?

As it happens it appears from the OP updates that her and her son have had a good chat and it appears that it maybe a combination of his memories in the family home and embarrassment about his feelings for the potential step sister.

tallcurvey · 05/02/2024 21:09

@GeoRicks

you son needs to grow up
life is for the living
it’s that simple

DeeLusional · 05/02/2024 21:09

GeoRicks · 05/02/2024 20:02

We have had a nice long chat tonight over some pizza.
It was a bit of struggle to get it out of him but we’ve found 3 issues per se

  • He’s worried if the relationship progresses I will sell the house and move to new partners (admittedly bigger and nicer) home. I’ve tried to reassure him that we are many many moons away from even considering living here. My house is mortgage free and a small 3 bed so potentially If it came to the point we did want to live together DS could keep our house
  • He doesn’t want to be alone overnight, I’ve suggested he go and stay at my brothers on that Sunday night and he seems ok with that
  • And what I think is the biggest clincher … he asked out partners DD a couple of times every time being shot back, he says it’s embarrassing and he doesn’t want to be around her, says he gets jealous and sad when he sees her . Obviously the jealousy needs worked on and maybe holding back on anything where we are all together! Took a bit to get this out of him but he said it “I’d prefer you date someone who isn’t the dad of the “fittest” girl I know who keeps rejecting me (he was laughing a bit as he said it).

Thank you for all the advice it seems some progress is being made!

Promised DS your house. Nice one, DS.

sausagepastapot · 05/02/2024 21:13

Don't end it.

Mirabai · 05/02/2024 21:18

If he was 7 I would say different but he’s 17 and about to start his own life. If you let this man go at this stage in your life you may not find another - that’s the reality. Just give DS time to come to terms with it.

I had a friend who disliked her mum’s new bf when she was 17 but by the time she was in her 20s she was grateful her mum was happy and taken care of. They stayed together til her mum’s death 30 years later.

Skye99 · 05/02/2024 21:25

MrsTingly · 05/02/2024 15:41

I think your son is old enough that you can discuss the way forward with him. He doesn't like the new chap sleeping over in his home and he's entitled to feel like that. You're entitled to a relationship. I think I'd be tempted to say that you understand his feelings and how strange it is, then explain how you feel, then say you want to find a solution that works for everyone. It may be that you can deal with the issue fairly simply eg you stay at your partner's, and that that is enough to solve the problem. It may be that simply feeling listened to and having you acknowledge how strange it is for him is enough.

This.

LuckySantangelo35 · 05/02/2024 21:28

Spyral · 05/02/2024 19:46

Yes, just see the man, who your not yet adult son considers as someone you are trying to replace his Dad with, during the day. That's a good compromise for now isn't it? Until such a time that your son can accept the situation.

It sounds like your new bloke has been in your son's life since very soon after losing his Dad and the only life he knew at the time. Was the reason for persisting with the sessions that your son hated for a year because this man was there. Did you carry on longer than your son wanted to because you actually quite enjoyed going and the attention you received from new bloke?

Anyway, obviously do what you like. It's up to you whether you consider that your son's feelings are worth listening to or not but I feel like you worded your thread title to gain as much validation for carrying on your romantic relationship as possible.

@Spyral

what if he never accepts it though? Should op just remain single forever? I get the impression from your post that you don’t think op matters at all , that’s it’s all about her son. Thing is op absolutely does matter too,

iontheprize · 05/02/2024 21:29

wait, i voted YABU because I think YABU for saying you have to end it. But YANBU for being in a relationship.

ThereIbledit · 05/02/2024 21:29

given your update I think you need to have a bit of a chat about how he interacts with girls generally. Asking someone out once, fine, repeatedly pestering her after she's already said no several times, and then punishing a different woman for him being rejected is erring on the dodgy.

This. I know you have a lot of sensitive things to navigate with him, but this needs to be teased out too. The first no should have been respected. xx

Viviennemary · 05/02/2024 21:30

No I don't think you should have to end the relationship. You need to be sensitive to your sons feelings but this doesn't mean you need to spend the rest of your life alone.

Epidote · 05/02/2024 21:31

Your son is being selfish. Understandably somehow because he has lost his dad and want to keep the memories intact of the three of you, but selfish. Don't leave the relationship if you are happy. Your son will understand.

WiddlinDiddlin · 05/02/2024 21:32

I don't think any 17 year old is totally comfy with the thought of their parent shagging someone, even their other parent really. He needs to get over that one!

More concerning is that he has asked your partners DD out multiple times after being turned down the first time - why does he think it is appropriate to keep asking when she's clearly said no?

I think thats something you need to discuss quite urgently.

If he is feeling uncomfortable that she's rejected him numerous times, he needs to think about how uncomfortable SHE may be feeling, that she has to spend time with a young man who will not listen and respect her boundaries!

Adding up his discomfort over you having a sex life, plus his behaviour towards a young woman clearly stating her boundaries AND his insecurity over being alone in his own home, and that he seems to (under the surface) feel like its disrespecting his deceased father for you to have a relationship in that house...

I think there are bigger issues you need to deal with, this is raising red flags of the incel/Tate type to me!

DriftingDora · 05/02/2024 21:37

WestwardHo1 · 05/02/2024 18:53

Not every 18 year old goes away to "uni" you know.

We know that. He's 17 - just because he's not planning to go at the moment doesn't mean he won't change his mind - it has happened with 17 year olds, you know! And the principle is the same - even if he goes for the apprenticeship option the OP mentions, it doesn't mean to say he'll stay local.

LindaDawn · 05/02/2024 21:41

You have met a lovely man and taken it very slowly. Your son needs to learn to accept that you are in a loving relationship which I am sure he will do in time. Your son should not be dictating your life. Please do not let your son make you end this relationship.

PosyPrettyToes · 05/02/2024 21:41

So he’d rather you were unhappy just because he’s embarrassed he got knocked back? Wow, your DS is a twat. And also why does he keep asking her when she’s said no and it impacts your family?

Y0URSELF · 05/02/2024 21:47

GeoRicks · 05/02/2024 15:55

Thank you everyone.

Does anyone have any advice on how I could make it work when DS doesn’t want him in the house but also doesn’t want to be home alone every week?
Just meeting in the day time?

I’m sorry but it’s your house not your sons. Yes it’s his home but you are the adult, the parent , you pay the bills. He doesn’t get to tell you who you can have in your own house. That’s controlling .

How would he feel he if he had a GF and you said you didn’t want her in your house?

I understand you want to Minimise conflict with your son. But he doesn’t get to run your life.

BTW I’m also a single parent with two sons of a Similar age,I know it’s not easy.

ACynicalDad · 05/02/2024 21:48

Don't end it, could you see each other every other weekend, so he only stays once a month, and perhaps other weeks see each other on Mondays in the day? If you can cool it for another 18 months your son will be out of school and onto his next step in life.

Newchapterbeckons · 05/02/2024 21:48

I might be alone in this, but I would be expressing my understanding that he likes dd, but he can’t wreck your relationship as a result. It will settle in time.

Privately I would be unimpressed! It feels weird because it is weird, she could be his step sister one day. He needs to back off, find himself a girlfriend and let you be happy. He sounds very entitled op.

I would also be ensuring she is safe guarded op.

Tatonka · 05/02/2024 21:49

maybein2022 · 05/02/2024 15:29

My personal view is you shouldn’t end things. You’ve both been through a lot but I don’t think your son should dictate that you end the relationship. You deserve happiness too.

This, and mainly as he is 17 so old enough to manage with it. But you could encourage therapy

BigFatCat2024 · 05/02/2024 21:49

Fgs he should be listening to the DD when she says no and backing off, not looking for new opportunities to go back and pester her again. She's not interested and he needs to accept that

It shouldn't affect things with your bf. Just don't put your son and his daughter in situations where they have to be together until he grows up a bit, sounds like she may appreciate that too!

Bunnie007 · 05/02/2024 21:51

Please don’t end this relationship. I say this as someone who lost my father as a teenager and struggled with my mums new relationship. It was part of my grief, but I’m now so happy my mum had a partner. Offer your son therapy if he needs it. Listen, of course his feelings are valid but that doesn’t mean you can’t have your relationship. The feelings are normal, it’s hard when your parent has a new partner but he will work through them. You are giving him the choice of not having your partner there but you going to their house instead. It sounds like you still have lots of time with your son without your partner there. Support your son of course but don’t end your relationship x

Northernsouloldies · 05/02/2024 21:57

Don't end it, he's got to learn he cannot manipulate women to make decisions that suit his needs, wants and it sounds more to do with the dd knocking him back but hey life is full of knocks.

HavingAnOffDAy · 05/02/2024 22:00

So glad you’re getting to the bottom of it OP. You deserve to be happy

stomachameleon · 05/02/2024 22:03

@GeoRicks I told my sons I wouldn't move in or move houses until the youngest had left home.
They do come first. I just adapted my relationship.
Not being by yourself is fairly normal but bare in mind he has had his ego dented and can only focus on that. When he meets someone it may be that that worry alters. If he is happy to go to your brothers that's fantastic.
Her rejection of him is now affecting your relationship. He needs to get over that. Maybe just be sensitive to things eg no big family get togethers.
You deserve to be happy and you have done the right thing. Keep communication open.

FloraClover · 05/02/2024 22:08

Your son isn’t wrong to feel that he doesn’t like this man in his family home. It will just highlight even more that his dad isn’t there. However, that doesn’t mean he can dictate that you end up alone.

it is a shame he won’t go be going to uni as this would be the easy route. So I think you stay with your partner at his house and limit the interaction between DS and the partner. I think you stay over every other weekend, and on one occasion DS stays home alone and on one occasion, he stays with a mate, or you get grandma or someone to stay. Then as time goes on you up the number of Sundays away.

I think you can both get what you want here.