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Aibu to ask your house price and council tax cost. (Disparity between areas)

260 replies

BorisIsACuntWaffle · 03/02/2024 23:40

£250,000. £3263

RIP off.

OP posts:
Itisnearlyspring · 04/02/2024 07:22

£3700 band G £1.5m

Vikingmama79 · 04/02/2024 07:25

Realising we are being well and truly stung by NE councils. Newcastle - Band H (approx £500k value) and ours is £4,361 and about to go up again when all local services are being cut to the bone.

Sunnnybunny72 · 04/02/2024 07:26

£400,000 ish and pay band E £2752. North West.
Next door pay band C £2000 because they extended and still live there, we bought after our extension was done.
😡😡😡

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 04/02/2024 07:27

£540,000 and £2300.

filka · 04/02/2024 07:29

AhNowTed · 03/02/2024 23:50

OP that is a serious rip off.

£1m £3,912

Thames Valley

I guess once you hit the top band, cost doesn't go up in line with value.

About £750,000 - £3,600 (Band G) - Reading/West Berks.

Expecting to increase by the max 5% this year, again.

Ourshoddyhouse · 04/02/2024 07:32

£390k £1681

Bagwyllydiart · 04/02/2024 07:33

180,000 2500, East Yorkshire

LakieLady · 04/02/2024 07:36

Comedycook · 04/02/2024 00:21

Council tax seems absolutely huge outside of London.

It costs a lot less to deliver services in a densely populated area. Less roads to maintain, cheaper to collect the rubbish as the distances they have to travel are much shorter, fewer schools (and fewer children needing school buses), fewer libraries per number of households etc.

Cliffordthebigreddog · 04/02/2024 07:38

£1million / £3576 West Yorkshire

AntiDevil · 04/02/2024 07:39

Renting a flat that our landlord bought for £58k in 2021 (in good condition, he didn't have to do it up) and we pay £1536. Yorkshire

maddening · 04/02/2024 07:43

Papillon23 · 04/02/2024 06:24

I feel like comparing house type would be more useful really.

E.g. I live in a 2 up 2 down terrace. It's value will vary from well into the hundred of thousands to a couple of hundred grand to maybe £75k, depending on the area.

But it will still be the same house no matter how much it costs.

In my area it's a band A and that is about £1500 without a discount.

I do think social care should be funded centrally by the government though: if councils want to provide slightly different arrangements for bin collection or street lighting that's up to them and I don't mind council tax varying to deal with that. But social care should be consistently provided across the country and so should be funded by national taxation.

I agree, particularly as there is more need for social care in deprived areas.

Timeisallwehave · 04/02/2024 07:43

I always assumed the banding was based on property size. As our band changed when we bought and the previous owners had extended. So while a certain size house will cost X in the south east the same size house elsewhere will cost less but the council tax will still be high?

maddening · 04/02/2024 07:44

LakieLady · 04/02/2024 07:36

It costs a lot less to deliver services in a densely populated area. Less roads to maintain, cheaper to collect the rubbish as the distances they have to travel are much shorter, fewer schools (and fewer children needing school buses), fewer libraries per number of households etc.

What buses! Outside of cities there is fuck all in buses and dc do not get free travel like they do in London!

LakieLady · 04/02/2024 07:47

I think councils should revalue properties when they are extended.

All the houses in my road were built to the same footprint and either 3 beds with a ground floor bathroom or 2 beds with an upstairs bathroom.

There are now very few that haven't been extended to the side (they're all semi-detached), which increases the floor area massively and can give another 2 bedrooms. Some have extended into the loft as well, and now have 5 bedrooms. They go for a lot more money, nearly 50% more than those that haven't been extended, but still pay the same council tax. And they house a lot more people, too!

Futb0l · 04/02/2024 07:48

Council tax is stupid.

Deprivation requires services. Which cost money. The areas which have the worst cost profile also can't raise as much revenue from their local population.

Its the most pointless fucking tax ever and concentrates revenue in the wealthiest areas, often in London.

Futb0l · 04/02/2024 07:52

*LakieLady · Today 07:36

It costs a lot less to deliver services in a densely populated area. Less roads to maintain, cheaper to collect the rubbish as the distances they have to travel are much shorter, fewer schools (and fewer children needing school buses), fewer libraries per number of households etc*

Agree - someone's not thought this through with council tax.

What matters is cost per capita. It costs far more per passenger to run a rural bus that serves a small, sparse population than to run a busy full london bus in a densely populated area.

Its also more costly to collect rubbish per household as vans have to travel a wider area to collect from the same number of households.

more children (a greater % of total local children) in rural areas need school buses as school catchments are much bigger and few can walk to school.

The valuation bands are also really out of date and don't reflect the huge national disparity in property values.

KeepGoing2 · 04/02/2024 07:54

£3984, house recently valued at £2M (paid £1.2m ten years ago), London.

Hiyawotcha · 04/02/2024 07:54

900k £2251

Pammela2 · 04/02/2024 07:56

Scotland. Value £440,000 council tax is £3700. Feeling ripped off too!

drowningintinsel · 04/02/2024 07:57

£320,000 and £2100

Mnetcurious · 04/02/2024 07:57

Futb0l · 04/02/2024 07:52

*LakieLady · Today 07:36

It costs a lot less to deliver services in a densely populated area. Less roads to maintain, cheaper to collect the rubbish as the distances they have to travel are much shorter, fewer schools (and fewer children needing school buses), fewer libraries per number of households etc*

Agree - someone's not thought this through with council tax.

What matters is cost per capita. It costs far more per passenger to run a rural bus that serves a small, sparse population than to run a busy full london bus in a densely populated area.

Its also more costly to collect rubbish per household as vans have to travel a wider area to collect from the same number of households.

more children (a greater % of total local children) in rural areas need school buses as school catchments are much bigger and few can walk to school.

The valuation bands are also really out of date and don't reflect the huge national disparity in property values.

Edited

sorry misread

LakieLady · 04/02/2024 07:59

maddening · 04/02/2024 07:44

What buses! Outside of cities there is fuck all in buses and dc do not get free travel like they do in London!

I'm well aware of the paucity of buses in rural areas! My rural town used to have 4 bus routes that served the outlying estates, it now has one. And that's only from 9.15-5.45, none on Sundays/bank hols, and with a 90 minute gap in the afternoon when it becomes a school bus. And we have a (not at all useful) 3 buses a day to the villages and town north of here, and none at all to the towns on the coast. If you want to go to the nearest town, 7 miles away, you have to get a bus into the nearest city and back out again, so twice the distance.

There is a school bus though, because the town has outgrown the local comp and a lot of secondary age kids have to go to a village comp 5 miles up the road. Lots of kids get free school transport a bit further out in the sticks, because they don't have a school within 3 miles (2 miles for under 8s).

Pammela2 · 04/02/2024 07:59

mjf981 · 04/02/2024 02:49

Wow.
I'm in Sydney - my flat is worth the equivalent of about 400,000 pounds. I pay 520 pounds a year in CT! However the stamp duty to buy was extortionate (16,000 pounds..)

We’re in Scotland and pay 3700/year for council tax. And paid 13,000 in stamp duty on 390,000!

So you’re still doing far better!

MediumDwarf · 04/02/2024 08:05

Purchased for £900k+ in 2021
Band H Council Tax is £4,344pa
Surrey.

The county and borough councils have both declared bankruptcy so will shorty be increasing the tax rates.

The roads are a mess of pot holes, there was no vegetation management for the past two years. The bins are collected bi-weekly and they now charge for garden waste, but very rarely collect it. Plenty of other services are failing or being cancelled. Pretty dire.

Metallicant · 04/02/2024 08:06

Property worth approx 1million
£3500
East Mids

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