To ask what you'd pay?

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Due to changing work commitments, DH and I are looking at hiring a TA from a local primary school to do afterschool pickups, care and tutoring for our two children. DS 7 and DD 9. DS is autistic and she has great SEND experience with a child at the school.

The TA is a trainee teacher at university. She actually used to be our cleaner so we know her well and the kids like her.

We need her approx 3-4 days a week from 3:30-5pm. She will collect the kids from school in her car, do some tutoring and homework help then ideally I'd like her to do a bit of ironing or have a tidy/straighten up before we get home.

She has said £15ph but DH is saying this is too much for a babysitter? I am not sure as we have paid £10ph for a babysitter before but obviously you don't ask a babysitter to tutor, tidy and pick up your kids for you? It sounds good to me but I need help convincing DH.
Thoughts?

So she was previously your cleaner. Then TA at the school and now doing teacher training at university.
So is she solely at University now? Would that even allow her to do regular school pick ups? Is she still a TA? Again, how would that allow her to do school pick ups?
This is confusing! Doesn't take much these days though!

I pay £30 an hour for my son's English tutor. An hour and a half's child care for £15 is a bargain especially as she will use her own car/ petrol to collect them.
I wouldn't bother getting her to do the ironing either as that would take the attention away from the kids/ homework and it's such a short amount of time.
I'm amazed someone will do that in your own home to be honest. Usually it would be after school club or a childminder in their home and you would have to collect.

I would find your husband's attitude highly unappealing, and you aren't fairing much better tbh.

She's not babysitting ffs, you want her to tutor and do housework?!

If she's happy to take £15 an hour then bite her hand off, but she's undercharging you, and you absolutely should not be thrusting the ironing board at her or asking her to tidy up ffs.

I really hate tight fuckers. I bet you aren't broke either.

She should do standard child care and supervise homework. If you want her to actually teach your kids then £20+ an hour.

£15/hour is the going rate for cleaners round our way and childcare is way harder. You've got a bargain!

I think £15 is too low tbh, I would pay £20 for everything you are asking for.

I’d be biting her hand off.

the SEN TA from DC4 school that helps with tutoring charges £40 per hour

the piano teacher charges €25 for 30mins

the maths tutor for DC3 charged £60 per hour.

even the cleaner costs more than £15 ph

There's absolutely no way this will work the way you think it will. You don't sound like you've thought about any of the practicalities. If she's doing her teacher training then she will need to stay at school past 3.30 even as a TA she won't be able to leave before 4 in most cases. How will she realistically be able to collect your children at 3.30?

That's not even mentioning what happens during her teaching placements or when shes got assignments due and she realises she can't nanny/tutor your children with her current workload.

I wouldn't ask her to iron not if you're expecting some tutoring. By the time they get home, bags down/shoes off/changed, snack/drink, table ready for tutoring, settled down, actually done some tutoring/homework, you'll be very close to 1.5hrs I would imagine. Depending on the driving distance, I would also offer her additional petrol costs over and above the £15.

Plus I would say it's much easier to outsource your ironing to any old ironing company, than piss off the TA.

You've found yourself someone you know and trust, who can actually help with their homework, so pay generously and keep them sweet. You're unlikely to get someone else, nor do you want someone else poaching her!

YABU £15 is not enough to expect someone to tutor your kids & do your housework after school as part of the deal and your DH is a dick. I assume he would work for £10 ph? Thought not….. I do hope you are paying her the 45p mileage for use of her car? Again, thought not! Tbh you both sound like CFs.

I spoke to a few people about this and the going rate round my area seems to be around £25-30 p/h minimum for a professional educator to tutor your children and do housekeeping. I remember I had a tutor after school when I was doing 11+ in the late 80s and my parents paid him £30 p/h.
So, you are right and he is wrong. You should not back down on this as the lady you've chosen sounds more than capable and knows your child's SEN etc.

This. £15 is an absolute bargain which you should snatch with eager hands. And provide her favourite foods and drinks, to show much appreciated she is.

Please don't expect the nanny to do housework. It will be too much and she may decide to give up the role, rather than do a bad job.

Get a cleaner to, well, clean. It would be sensible to ask her if she knows anyone who would be interested in the cleaning / ironing role, as having staff who get in well is a major bonus and will make your lives so much easier.

Your husband should try looking around for someone equally qualified and willing to do this for less. He’s stingy. It’s actually pretty awful of him to think she’s not worth £15ph!

Frankly, she could get more.

Your husband is a knob.

English tutors go for £30-40 per hour here. Maths tutors go for £35-45. Per hour.

People who can care for SEN children so parents can work and will tutor to boot? Golddust. Frankly, she's undervaluing herself and should probably charge £25 per hour.

Don't ask her to clean your house or iron. That's not why you're hiring her.

I’d bite her hands off at £15, but more than that would be fair.

I think £15 is fine for just basic childcare, little more than having an adult on the premises. Throw in tutoring and SEN and £25+ is more appropriate.

And no, don’t ask her to do ironing and cleaning on top of everything else.

I was thinking £20 ph for all that she’s offering so I’d say £15 oh is a great deal. She’s not just some 16 year old sitting downstairs with the kids in bed, it sounds like she will provide a lot of services in one.

I'd say £25 an hour would be very cheap.
£15 an hour is in my opinion insultingly low and asking for housework as well as tutoring is just CFy.

I don’t think it’s enough for everything you want her to do.

Your husband is a joke. Im guessing he is not degree educated ?

I pay our year 2 university student £20 an hour for just tutoring. I voluntarily put this up from £15 an hour when she helped my DD get a 7 in her maths gcse (prediction a 3 from mocks!) we were paying £15 an hour before so £15 sounds fair.

Would be interested to know how much your DH would pay a man in the same role.

Our qualified babysitter (also working in a nursery so similar to you I think) is paid £12/h for evenings and £15/h during the day (when the kids are awake and do activities etc). So yes I think £15 in your case is reasonable

You don't want much do you, in 90 minutes you want a school pick up, your children transported home, drinks and a snack given, tutoring and the ironing done, maybe she could cook dinner and shove a broom up her arse too. I personally think the woman needs to walk away or charge you £35 for the 90 minutes.

Forgot to add, get your CF of a husband to do all that for £10 an hour. His attitude shows how much he respects women. Babysitting ! cheeky twunt

Tutors charge £30 per hour for one child and you want her to tutor 2 for an hour an a half, clean up and iron for £15? You are taking the piss and she is undervaluing herself if she accepts that let alone less