To ask what you'd pay?

[Barone245]

Due to changing work commitments, DH and I are looking at hiring a TA from a local primary school to do afterschool pickups, care and tutoring for our two children. DS 7 and DD 9. DS is autistic and she has great SEND experience with a child at the school.

The TA is a trainee teacher at university. She actually used to be our cleaner so we know her well and the kids like her.

We need her approx 3-4 days a week from 3:30-5pm. She will collect the kids from school in her car, do some tutoring and homework help then ideally I'd like her to do a bit of ironing or have a tidy/straighten up before we get home.

She has said £15ph but DH is saying this is too much for a babysitter? I am not sure as we have paid £10ph for a babysitter before but obviously you don't ask a babysitter to tutor, tidy and pick up your kids for you? It sounds good to me but I need help convincing DH.
Thoughts?

If this was my daughter I would tell her to walk away from employers who want to exploit her.

Babysitters sit and watch telly while eating Pringles whilst the kids are upstairs asleep. That’s not what she’s doing.

15 pound p/h is cheap as chips. She’s a trained and experienced TA, soon she’ll be a qualified teacher. A regular person couldn’t do it, you need her skill set.

You have to consider her time, her skills, her petrol, wear and tear on her car. She sounds like a bloody angel, we could all do with someone that could pick the kids up from school, do their homework, iron workshirts, and whizz the hoover around.

£20 actually sounds much fairer.
Also agree with the no housework, however obviously expect not to come home to a bomb site, tidy along as minding children but nothing additional. Not enough time to clean and tutor

Me too, I think it’s a piss take and really exploiting someone as they think they need the money.

it’s far from ok.

Your DH is a CF if he thinks that rate is too steep! Oh and that's not a 'babysitting' role, it's an after school nanny role!

I agree with PPs, £15/h is spectacularly cheap for what you are getting.

You want her to tutor the kids, help with their homework and also do ironing and tidying up?

Utter madness. You either want a tutor and a cleaner rather than try and put that all on one person.

Your DH sounds as tight as a ducks arse. You can't pay her a baby sitter wage as what you want her to do is most definitely not classed as babysitting.

A child minder is about £6 per hour per child and tutoring is about £25+ I wouldn’t ask her to do any other things as I think for 2 you’re already massively under paying her.

But a child minder looks after other kids and it’s in their home, the op wants her to pick up her kids, take them home, tutor two kids, one with sen , do homework, then do the ironing, and tidy up , all in 90 mins, and she is thinking a miserly 15 quid an hour and they are hoping for a tenner.

it’s utterly outrageous.

£15 an hour is cheap for this!

Perhaps your husband could finish early and do it himself??

Tutoring is usually around £25 an hour, so she is not asking enough really. As an aside, how will she be able to do the job if she is a trainee teacher- she'll be on teaching practice?

I would snatch her hand off for £15, am surprised it is as low as that.

Thing is... She's not a babysitter, she's teaching them. Babysitters just sit here watching children, tutors teach. I'd pay 15- 20£ per hour for that

Having been though all this myself, if you want a 15 year old to "keep your kids alive" u til you get home, get a babysitter for £8 am hour.

If you want a childminder, you pay £15, and be glad that you already know and like her.

We also had our cleaner switch from cleaning to childminding; we paid the rate for whichever job she was doing.

So in 90 minutes you want her to pick the kids up, tutor them, help them with homework, tidy up and iron? I'd say you've got yourself a bargain.

@Barone245

tell tight arse he's getting a tutor for £15ph

tell him to try to find one cheaper.

the kids know & like her.

Do not ask her to do ironing cleaning in those hours. Offer her extra hours for the jobs.

honestly the pair of you squeak!!

Struggling to believe this is real - £15 per hour is an absolute bargain for collecting from school using her own car and tutoring/homework help from a trainee teacher.

By the time she's collected them, got them settled and possibly a snack then there won't be time for ironing/straightening up and personally I think it's a bit cheeky to ask.

And all of this from someone the children are already comfortable with - this definitely comes under the heading of don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Way too low. Piss take.
Where I live qualified tutors (ex teachers mainly) charge £35-40 ph at primary level and TA tutors £25.
If I was here, I'd be wanting £25 ph minimum.

£15 is too cheap, imo, but if that's what she wants, it's a steal for you. No, to the ironing and tidying. She's not there to be your housekeeper, she's there to tutor/help your kids.

Have you even spoke to this woman if she is willing to do this? As she is both working as a ta and a trainee teacher. Her workload will be huge.

if you want to pay baby sitter wages, then you offer her a job babysitting only.
if you want a cleaner, that’s about 15 quid an hour.
if you want a tutor that’s about 25.

ao if you want 45 mins tutor and homework and 45 mins ironing and tidy go for 20 quid an hour. The mid point, so for 90 mins you should pay her 30 quid.

instead of insulting her and trying to get her to be some form of skivvy doing all the homework and ironing and tidying so you don’t have to, and trying to basically make her your cleaner again on the cheap. Speak to her and offer the going rate. And hire a seperate cleaner. And if you can’t afford it, then accept you need to do it yourselves.

Tutoring here is £20+ per hour depending on experience and we pay our cleaner who does ironing and other bits for us, £25 per hour, so I think £15 is very cheap. Your husband is tight and being a twat calling it ‘babysitting’.

The local teenagers round here charge more than that just for tutoring. As do cleaners.
Stinginess has to be one of the most unattractive qualities in a man. What a turn off. Imagine thinking your child's wellbeing isn't worth £15 per hour? And that's for 2 children £7.50 each
What does he earn? Presumably he couldn't earn anything if other people weren't willing to care for his children.

This. £10 an hour would be below minimum wage (depending on her age)

I have one who does this and both of my boys have ASD.

It’s an ‘easy’ gig as the boys are easy at home and no housework etc is expected. It’s sit and play, cuddle, give them dinner. Boys are 6 & 11.

We pay £14 per hour which is what she asked for and frankly it’s a bargain. If she called tomorrow and said she wanted £20 to carry on I’d say yes without blinking.