Why am I being asked by the NHS if my 8 month old baby 'still identifies as the gender assigned at birth?'

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We had a medical concern with our 8 month old baby, so I rang 111 for advice, we got directed to a lovely nurse to ask further questions, all going well until she asked....

'Does she identify as the gender assigned at birth?'

Oh wait a minute, let me just ASK her..

Surely parents wouldn't have made that decision to 'change the gender' of their baby?

What is going on, I understand the question may need to be asked for older teenagers/adults but a baby?!?!

Aibu to feel a bit annoyed and confused?

If the NHS asked my 8 months old their level of education, it would be as equally a ridiculous question.

My DF, who is severely disabled, went into hospital for routine tests recently. The staff were not able to manage his lack of mobility and as a result he had to deal with indignities able bodied people would not have to deal with.
Theres another thread on MN at the moment by a poster who’s learning disabled DD is receiving terrible care.
So much for being inclusive.
But rainbow lanyards and asking babies for their gender identity = inclusivity in the NHS.
The shoddy treatment of disabled people, not that important.

Useful! Thank you. I found the link (and bookmarked it):

Nothing Marxist about it. Marxism is big on material reality.

Try asking the Conservative party, they are in charge.

It’s a 111 call center, they’re working to a script and getting snarky with the person at the other end or giving smart arse answers is unreasonable, they don’t set the questions. Whenever I phone they apologise in advance if the questions seem irrelevant but they they have to ask everyone, presumably because they always ask a bunch of questions about bleeding, breathing, consciousness etc even if you already explained the reason you called was your child had earache. They’re covering all bases.

It’s not hard to say “yes she does”, roll your eyes and move on.

Oh I'd have had fun with that one.

Mostly with faux misunderstanding and as,img questions like

"What is this gender assignment at birth?" "How do they assign this gender? I was only to,d the sex". "How will I know of my baby is a different gender to the assigned one" (once they've explained what assigned sex is.

But no, yanbu at this utter madness.

Stop the world I want to get off! 😵

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The Communist Party is the only political party with a coherent political analysis of sex and gender. Gender as an ideological construct should not be confused or conflated with the material reality of biological sex. Gender is the vehicle through which misogyny is enacted and normalised. Gender identity ideology is well- suited to the needs of the capitalist class, focusing as it does on individual as opposed to collective rights, enabling and supporting the super-exploitation of women.

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Fuck The Tories!

I'm sure you losing your shit at the person on the other end of the phone who happens to be a person who didn't come up with the question, nor the policy to screen it, and also happens to be the person you're calling for help with your baby, would work remarkably well for you.

Once they know your 'beliefs' they have leverage to feed you propaganda and undermine you!

I would not rob your child of their autonomy at their pre-verbal stage in an AI world!

I'd put in an official complaint about that.

It's just a one size fits all form. I've been asked if my 9 year old son was pregnant when he had his covid jab and every time my 10 year old has been in hospital they ask if he smokes or takes illegal drugs.

How ridiculous.

If I was pregnant and they asked me that, I would like them deadpan and say “sorry..what now?”

I wouldn't dignify any of those questions with an answer.

I'm not necessarily blaming the nurse, as I said she was lovely, I work for the public sector myself, I get it, she's doing what she has been told to..

BUT

Clearly there should be some scope for flexibility, it's ludicrous. They know the sex of my child, why do further questions need to be asked, it also had no weighting whatsoever on the medical advice I needed

To me, I feel like senior management/directors are trying to push the exclusivity (ok fine!) But with little room for flexibility and it's being applied where it shouldn't be, the NO COMMON SENSE approach. Perhaps fear of repercussion by the minority?

Christ alive.

At the other side of it I had 5 xrays last year and not once was I asked if I was pregnant. And I was only 38.

I phoned 111 for my baby at the weekend, no gender ID questions asked on the initial call or call back by the nurse. Just the standard DOB, address, my relationship to the patient and then symptoms. Sounds like only some trusts ask the gender ID questions and mine doesn't?

I phoned 111 for DC UTI last night and wasn’t asked anything about his sex or gender.

Ahh interesting, perhaps not standard across all the trusts?

To confirm this wasn't from the call centre, it was from a call back from the nurse who asked the question

I'm in Manchester

Just laugh about how ridiculous that is like many things are and get on with your life. It won’t affect any of you in the long run will it? It’s silly to a baby obviously, but ticks a box in the grand scheme of things and the huge demographic of people the nhs serves, but there’s a funny side. Think how absolutely massive the NHS is, it can’t individualise questions to each person so it is what it is.

omg that is the most crazy thing i have heard!!! what is going on!!!