Why am I being asked by the NHS if my 8 month old baby 'still identifies as the gender assigned at birth?'

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We had a medical concern with our 8 month old baby, so I rang 111 for advice, we got directed to a lovely nurse to ask further questions, all going well until she asked....

'Does she identify as the gender assigned at birth?'

Oh wait a minute, let me just ASK her..

Surely parents wouldn't have made that decision to 'change the gender' of their baby?

What is going on, I understand the question may need to be asked for older teenagers/adults but a baby?!?!

Aibu to feel a bit annoyed and confused?

i was "educated" the other day apparently born males can get endometriosis i was so gobsmacked i couldnt speak

in other NHS crazy my son has long hair and a stutter (so uses me to communicate) drs and nurses repeatedly refer to him as a girl even when we were in with a suspected torsion (testicular) i spent a lot of time saying things like "HE" and by the end i was saying "still a boy" they kept trying to send me out the room so "she" could speak in private he stuttered out NO! i felt like i was being threatened and i dont know why! 😶the surgeons on the other hand had total hair envy and were happy to call him he.....he looks like he belongs in a heavy metal band btw

It's extremely rare, but there have been cases of biological men being diagnosed with endometriosis.

That's very weird about the nurses and doctors though... I'm surprised they would refer to him as a girl just because he has long hair! That's ridiculous.

Oh, you came back.
I rewrote what you said as a question, to confirm that I'd understood your meaning. So thanks for confirming you had no idea how babies are made!

My second paragraph was the opposite of what you'd said. An embryo's sex is formed before it has even 10 cells, and can be identified.

Honestly ds is used to being described as a girl it's annoying to him but not as annoying as short hair apparently 😂

Genuinely didn't know about the men and endometriosis thing!

That's very weird about the nurses and doctors though... I'm surprised they would refer to him as a girl just because he has long hair! That's ridiculous.

And dangerous especially if they were trying to usher his parent out of the room to discuss the issue.

One of the many bad things about this rise in gender ideology / religion is that children and adults who are in the slightest way “ gender non conforming “ are constantly asked by others “ what are your pronouns? “.

In this way, these woke people are busy monitoring how much we all comply with their personal beliefs about how women / men / girls / boys should present in terms of hair, clothing, make up, jewellery etc.

It’s very controlling.

@Mittemucci just curious, if you dated somebody, who told you what their gender was A and when you got down to it, their sex turned out to be B, would you be bothered?

But it's medically incorrect! In a medical environment!

Your SEX is observed at birth, not assigned.

Everyone has a SEX, which is the relevant point.

Especially in a medical setting

How?

Endometriosis is a disease in which tissue similar to the lining of the uterus grows outside the uterus. It can cause severe pain in the pelvis and make it harder to get pregnant. Endometriosis can start at a person's first menstrual period and last until menopause.

How many men have a uterus?

Because sadly the centre are obsessed with measuring EDI and demographics rather than gathering some of the harder to collect patient experience and qualitative data that really informs improvement.
I say this as someone who has worked in the NHS for almost 20 years. I can appreciate why knowing who is or isn't accessing services can be useful for wider public health however it boggles my brain that such focus is put on this when there are many other things that they should be looking at to help services recover and improve.
Another reason is practical, it would be a very challenging and expensive task to develop individual forms for different groups so in many ways better to ask a question that isn't relevant than miss a question that is.

It is medically USEFUL information though if you're a clinician though.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5833878/#:~:text=In%20extremely%20rare%20cases%2C%20endometriosis,abdominal%20wall%2C%20and%20inguinal%20region.

You could have just googled it

By getting down to it, I assume you mean sex.
I think if a man who was born a man omitted telling me he was married u til the point of intimacy that would also be upsetting.

your question is about disclosure and honesty before sex- not sexual preference.

I assume you are trying to ask me if I am sexually attracted to gender diverse people or not- and I’m not quite sure why that is relevant.

I don’t think my individual preferences should be applied to the population as a whole. I’m happy to roll with the majority.

we live in a society where gender diversity and allowances for such is accepted by the majority. Hence an innocuous question on a form. I do wonder why some people have such insecurities around it….

Yes you are correct.
everybody has a sex.
everybody also has a gender. Except those people who choose not to accept the concept of gender. Deciding that gender does not apply to YOU personally does not mean the whole concept doesn’t exist.
even if you don’t think it should.

Yes gender exists. But sex is more important in a medical setting