To not want to be sat near loud cackling women

[Ferretmad2]

What is it with groups of loud, cackling women these days? Third time I’ve eaten out recently and next to a table full of shouty, cackling women who seem to be in a contest of who can cackle the loudest. Doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s a posh place or not. I’m fed up of having to be sat near them whilst waiting for my food. Can’t move as we are in a table of 7. My three autistic children are completely silent! Feel like following my eldest child’s example and getting noise cancelling AirPods.

not objecting to the behaviour that most people think is harsh. It's insulting the women by likening them to witches. You can quite easily say a group of women were so loud they spoiled my dinner without drawing that parallel.

That depends if your first thought is witches, and then if you think being compared to a witch is an insult. My first thought is hens, I've heard many more hens cackling than witches! I dont think I've ever heard someone I knew to be a witch cackle, to be honest. I also don't consider being compared to a witch to be a negative.

The lambasting men get on here is usually associated with shitty behaviour in relationships. I have never heard them being pilloried for making noise on a night out.

Sorry I responded to the weong poster. Not meant for you.

Ah bless you
Are you that sarcastic in real life? And obviously you would defend a cackling 'person's' right to enjoy themselves, but not other people's right to a peaceful night out?

I think someone downthread asked for examples of the sort of misogynist adjectives that are applied to women but which are commonly used specifically used for men. Did anyone come up with any?

As I’ve gotten older, now 43, my tolerance of people has literally gone AWOL. I sympathise. My mum had all her friends round her house for her 70th. They were drunk, rowdy, kept touching arms, speaking in your ear so loudly and swaying into me and my sister. I’d popped in after work so I was done being social. I can’t stomach my space being invaded and I crave quiet, especially after work. It was made out to be just me and my family and my sister after 5pm but everyone was still there. We lasted half an hour then we left. They were having fun, it was a celebration and they went for it, rightly so. Just my choice not to stick around and endure it because it was doing our trees in. Didn’t begrudge any of them having fun which they were. It was the women who were the loudest and rudest. The men were in their corners talking between themselves but women like an audience, I see this when I go out. Completely get it.

I agree OP. But it's not just loud women, there are a host of annoying types out there. It can ruin your evening. Try asking to be moved, if possible, i know not always possible

Yes, I did, not that long ago. They weren't adjectives but not were the female examples given. I forgot one, actually - tosser, also tosspot. There'll be more but I will try to refrain from posting them willy-nilly (as it were) throughout the night as they occur 🤣

But if it bothers you and your children so much, probably best to stay home and socialise in your home and friends' homes

Nah it's weird to call people men and females.

Dehumanising really.

Lots of women feel the same way.

Of course yes, neurodiverse people and anyone else who may be sensitive to loud, unpleasant noise should just stay home. It's ridiculous to expect any kind of moderation or consideration from others. Everyone should just be able to behave however they want in a shared environment (sarcasm).

Aren't you being insulting to witches? I've known some lovely witches, maybe because I live somewhere that seems to have lots of alternative lifestyles but to say it in insulting to liken women to witches is insulting to witches.

Why the obsession with "cackle" and not with people being inconsiderate and thoughtless. We all know what the OP meant and the insults from some people about people being miserable is also unpleasant.

So a few years ago, well quite a few, I was on a train with my youngest child. He'd have been about 11 I think. The carriage had several elderly people plus other parents with kids. One young man was clearly drunk, for 2 hrs we listened to his sexual exploits, his preferences and quite revoltingly his girlfriend's party trick. A soldier eventually asked him to be quiet and he was for the rest of the journey until he got up to leave the train at the same station as me. As he stood just behind me he started again. I turned to him and said, "for the love of God can you stop, no one in interested and no one is impressed." There was a stunned silence and he said, "I think I've been told off."

Was I wrong then, is it OK to behave like that, yes I judged him for the foul mouthed little drunk he was and I couldn't careless if you want to judge me or object. Sometime you need to behave in a public place even if you just want to have some fun.

That is an entirely different scenario.. OP was purely objecting to women laughing, in a restaurant, a social environment. Not comparable to a drunk ranting about his sexual exploits on a train.

No we have been repeatedly told we are miserable if we object to other people being loud and annoying because they are enjoying themselves. He was happy telling the world his stories. I objected so I must be miserable, right?

No actually I'm not I just expect people to show a bit of consideration. As I said earlier I think alcohol is almost always involved.

Hmmm no, that isn't what has been said. But if you want to misinterpret it, I can't be bothered to spell it out.

Had to move my family in an Indian restaurant the other day coz an Adele lookalike had ‘drank six glasses of wine’ and was shouting across the table at her friends telling everyone who’s listen about her business. Including her wine intake. We could not hear ourselves think! Recently, it has occurred to me just how much women talk! We never STFU!! whenever you see a couple out walking, it’s always the woman yacking away. And yes, I’m a woman, I talk too much, and I’m owning it.

Because women’s voices are more high pitched and more likely to get on your nerves.

Yeah - cackle is that loud high and sharp cross between a laugh and shriek that pierces the skull!

It has been said repeatedly. Don't pretend people who don't like this behaviour hasn't been called miserable. Anyone can go back and read, the evidence is all there.

@Iwasafool Could you give us a more incomparable scenario if you tried....
A group of women laughing too loudly for the likes of OP, (in a SOCIAL setting)
is nothing like someone being sexually explicit on public transport. How strange.

Nope, I'm not being insulting to witches. Like you, I know some very fine ones. But it would be a little disingenuous to pretend we didn't know that when the word witch is thrown at women (who odds are, are NOT witches) its meant to insult. I'd be quite astounded if people who call random (typically older) women witches, have the alternative women in your community in mind, rather than an image of an evil ugly old woman, 'cackling' over a cauldron.

@Flobbyblob Did it occur to you that these are most likely friends that haven't seen each other in a while, hence the need to catch up.

You don't need to get absolutely trashed and shout over a table about how much you have drunk and your personal business to 'catch up'.

@AvengedQuince And you don't get to dictate how friends should interact when they meet up.