To not want to be sat near loud cackling women

[Ferretmad2]

What is it with groups of loud, cackling women these days? Third time I’ve eaten out recently and next to a table full of shouty, cackling women who seem to be in a contest of who can cackle the loudest. Doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s a posh place or not. I’m fed up of having to be sat near them whilst waiting for my food. Can’t move as we are in a table of 7. My three autistic children are completely silent! Feel like following my eldest child’s example and getting noise cancelling AirPods.

Yep. Never heard a man moan about a women's cackling laugh.

They do, but their voices are deeper so it sounds different. We live in a patriarchy, so men's cackling is dubbed "hearty belly laughter".

If you are out drinking in a loud place you won`t notice or be bothered too much, the OP was in a presumably quieter restaurant with a family group who she wanted to talk to without being drowned out by overdone fake panto style cackling.

What is it with absolutely miserable people these days? People have got so fucking crabby since the pandemic, I'm sick of it. Let people enjoy themselves. If you don't like it, go to places where silence is encouraged like the cinema. Or better still, your house.

Oh Christ, groups of drunk women in a restaurant are the worst! The shrieking could shatter glass!

Sorry, I dont think not wanting to listen to someones complete dribble into a mobile phone on a bus or hear constant loud fake "performance" laughter when you are eating out somewhere makes you "miserable".

I have. He has a hearing aid and it cuts through like nothing else through there.

Men don't cackle and shriek like that. I reserve my judgement for the obnoxiously loud sneezes they can produce. There's just no need. Women don't tend to do that.

Yep, so much crap going in right now... if I saw a table of people "cackling", I would be asking to join them.

I'm autistic and I don't like loud noise either.

I also recognise that "cackle" is a term used to shame women for having the temerity to laugh whilst possessing high-pitched voices. Men's laughter is deeper and so doesn't seem as loud and doesn't have the piercing quality that women's has, but it is loud.

Women shouldn't be judged for having fun just because of their voice pitch.

So, will he approach the women who are cackling? Tell them to tone it down just for him?

Not at all. We choose to eat out on quiet nights where there will be few people and no weekend crowds. We also ask to be placed in quiet corners.

Come to think of it, the only time I have felt the need to complain is when we asked for a quiet corner, explained why, were given one, most of the restaurant (which was large) was empty, and a table of 12 shrieking kids was placed next to us so we couldn't hear ourselves think. I asked to be moved and we were. No more problems.

I think OP that you mean laughing and you say the word cackling instead because you are being unpleasant.

Is she Richie from Bottom?!

This is what I do to manage my sensory overload that goes with being autistic too.

Fringe benefits are that I wait less time for service and don't feel rushed to finish quickly and make way for the next booking.

The last couple of times I’ve been disturbed (and I can’t remember any before that) it was men.

Women out having fun eh? The absolute bastards. 🙄

Sometimes it can be both - the men roaring loudly and deeply and the women shrieking sharply.

I was raised with the statement that there are people around us to be considerate of, so keep the noise down.

The ones who laugh like hyenas are the worst.

Bellowing.

Really? Inspired by this thread, I'm thinking of taking it up myself. So far I've not gone beyond a tasteful titter. But my goal is to progress 'squawking' by August bank holiday, and 'howling like a Banshee' by Christmas.

Terrible, how very dare they. The op wants to sit silently. Laughing loudly whilst being a woman should be outlawed according to miserly silence seeking person

@Ferretmad2 seriously try loop earplugs! I normally hate anything in my ears but they don't bother me, and they are designed to allow the sound close to you through so they won't muffle the sound of those talking at your table.

This.

It comes over that way

Sadly not.
I worked with such a woman, loud brash and cackling. You had to hear her in full flow, then you’d know.
its not people laughing and having fun, its embarrassing and quite awful.
I once went out for lunch with one woman , and a group of others and this woman, was loud, and embarrassing

Lately we’ve been out and a load of men came from a local football match nd were all sweary, not nice when you are with your preteens

The big party of women on the table next to us, we’re laughing, celebrating a birthday not quiet, but not obnoxious, and friendly and enjoying themselves, and were no problem at all.

A lot of it’s in the demeanour, it can be the same noise level, but some groups are more acceptable than others, due to their demeanour and general noises they make: cheerful laughter, or rowdiness or swearing.

Groups need to be mindful how they behave, but no one minds if they are good hearted, and loud

I'm a loud laugher and a very loud sneezer! I actually envy women who do a quite little 'choo' with a delicate finger under their nose. If I tried to do that, I think my head would explode! I can promise you, there is nothing I can do about the loud, dramatic sneezes I do and I am 100% female.