To not want to be sat near loud cackling women

[Ferretmad2]

What is it with groups of loud, cackling women these days? Third time I’ve eaten out recently and next to a table full of shouty, cackling women who seem to be in a contest of who can cackle the loudest. Doesn’t seem to matter whether it’s a posh place or not. I’m fed up of having to be sat near them whilst waiting for my food. Can’t move as we are in a table of 7. My three autistic children are completely silent! Feel like following my eldest child’s example and getting noise cancelling AirPods.

If only others had the light tinkly laugh you surely possess the world would be a far more civilised place.

I don't blame you at all for moving away from 'these women' having 'fun'.

And the restaurant must have kicked themselves over the 3 lost dessert orders. Bravo for taking a stand.

@CrashyTime The thing is peoples idea of what is too lough or cackling is quite subjective. As long as people aren't effing and blinding or literally shouting, I'd take no aversion to people laughing. I'd most likely laugh too, as my sons would be side eyeing.

Well you would be at someone elses house, isnt that a change of scenery? If someone is encroaching on your sensory awareness persistently they are "performing" IMO, I want the couple at the table 15 feet away to be quietly laughing at each others jokes and be enjoying themselves right on the edge of my awareness, not acting like they are auditioning for Love Island or Big Brother shouting and waving phones about like clowns.

It can be as loud as shouting, though. Shouty laughing!

@CrashyTime Well it wouldn't be a change of scenery for the friend who's house we were at, would it. That is a very extreme example. I can't say I've ever heard a conversation 15 feet away. How about the people sitting on the table 5 feet from you, would laughter be acceptable or would they have to whisper to keep out of your sensory awareness?

Nah - I prefer the shouty drunk men - their voices don't pierce the skull I. The same way

Not really, the overlong drawn out empty laugh with more emphasis added at the end just when you think it is over is what we are talking about, it chimes with the old saying I used to hear from my Granny "Empty vessels make the most noise", it is very prevalent in public places at the moment and the Peter Hitchens article that I cant find any more discusses it in depth, of course he comes over like a pretentious elitist twat but he nails it exactly, it is all over the UK (the urban centres anyway) and it is a symptom of something about modern life, many PHDs will no doubt be written in the future about this. Most people can distinguish this type of laugh from a genuine expression of joy which is a natural human emotion.

I want the people 5 feet away to be in masks and goggles with their hoods up, and texting each other.

The second one makes a lot of sense.

The first one I'm not sure anyone has actually needed to do since about 2005, but maybe it's just habit.

@CrashyTime the very real risk of going out in public is that you might have to contend with the general public.

Yep, it is just basic manners around others, unfortunately too many people now are hyped up by drugs and need for attention or maybe just too much social media blunting their sense of perception of the "real" world and how others are being affected by them?

I have heard that kind of laughter in public. It sounds quite performative, as if they are signalling to outsiders that they are having a good time.

Id say most people can tell the difference between a genuine laugh and a fake performance laugh.

I'm in my 70s and I find it is women younger than me. Young women do it to some extent but get a middle aged woman on a hen night with younger women and they are the worst.

I'm teetotal so I might be biased but I do think it is linked to how much people have had to drink.

Or maybe they are genuinely having a good time.
The people moaning about this... were you having a shitty time and maybe jealous of people that are out and enjoying themselves?

If I am out and having fun, I don't get all judgemental about other people that are too.

Try living within a a couple of miles of a football stadium. Thousands of mostly-male fans singing obscenities for two hours. It's not as simple as "move elsewhere" when you are a child and don't control where you live.

Oh wait, I forgot, it's only women who aren't allowed to be noisy.

Seconding the PPs who called out your misogyny.

Do men ever cackle?

Yes, but I`m not saying avoid the public, I am just making observations on how some of the public are making idiots of themselves in public and saying that it is a symptom of a wider deterioration in society. The best thing to do IMO is to just move away from annoying loud idiots and enjoy their reaction as the attention gets taken away from them, usually they double down and get louder, I find that quite funny actually.

I feel your pain.

I'm occasionally invited to a friend's party where another friend of theirs is a guest. She has a screaming shrieking cackling laugh that goes right through your bones.

You can see other guests wincing, but shrieky lady doesn't notice.

I think it's her party laugh, shows what a good time she's having, if anyone cared.

I'm guessing alcohol has a bit to do with it too.

She's a nice lady but I can't stand her shrieking laugh.

I so agree. Even small groups of women can be awful. I was in the hairdressers the other day, and the racket..... and I don't mean the hairdryers. Some women just do not have a volume control.

Yep, I think that nails it, most outsiders just feel like they are hearing nails on a blackboard though, LOL.

No. Only women seem to, and it affects people to the point they need to make a thread about it.

@CrashyTime There you are then, you have found a solution to a perceived problem.

@XenoBitch don't posts like this pretty much prove nobody judges women like other women.

I just hate being among noisy people - men or women. If they are so noisy that I can't have a conversation with the people I am with I am out of there.