annoyed woman wont move seats on train

[PrettyPleaseXo]

Currently on the train with my 5 year old. There’s loads of individual seats but none together so I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?

if there were no other seats I’d completely get it but there’s loads of individual ones

Your daughter is 5. She can sit on your lap.

I am on your side..as i know how completely disconnected people out there can be....i have witnessed this myself..as a disabled pedson...i got on a bus ..only seat i could see was right at the back of the bus..but had a steepish step up to it..i tried stepping up but fell to my knees...i found it impossible to get back up..but every single person sat there jyst sraring at me..or looking away..ALL MEN BTW i had to lay there..until the bus stopped at a bus stop..then i had a hell of a struggle to get on to the seat...so YES im on your side...people are very disconnected nowadays..i find it very strange...i am so sorry for the rant..and it sounds like im making this all about me..its not intended..im just saying how rude people can be nowadays..wishing you well x

Sit child on lap

After reading some of the batshit replies on this thread I’m amazed that I managed to survive travelling by public transport with 3 dc under 5! I sat with the youngest. The older two found seats wherever they could. Or they both sat on my lap/stood in front of me. We all lived to tell the tale - phew! 😥

I can just imagine the scene if a SW turned up at my door accusing me of “abandoning my children in a train carriage!” 😂😂

Wow! When did people become so entitled that they expect others to move seats to accommodate them?? If you travel by public transport you can expect Joe Public to sit in the seats they paid for, on a first come first served basis. The mind boggles at the attitude of some people 😵‍💫

As for the poster who says a passenger wouldn’t move when an infant in a car seat was placed next to her. Sorry, I don’t believe you. There’s not a person on this planet who would want to travel next to an unknown infant. Not a chance in hell would I sit next to an infant without its mother. I have no desire to babysit some random strangers baby and most people wouldn’t either.
Yours truly,
From a mother of 5 and a grandmother of 9.

Did you actually ask anyone for help and explain you are disabled?

If you’ve not got reserved seats, I can’t think why she’d think she’s meant to move. She’s probably wondering why you’re still hanging around rather than going and looking for space for you both.

Not everyone notices or cares really, especially those with earphones on ignoring surroundings who are sat where they want to be. Sad I know, way it's become ime. X

Person pays, boards, sits in a vacant seat. What difference does it make if they have earphones on? Do you think everyone without earphones will move for the mother of a 5 year old to sit?

I can assure you they don't and never have. Why should they?

LTB.

Sometimes you have no choice and it won't kill them to sit next to someone either. If I am on one seat and across the way my child is on another next to someone else and I can see them what's the harm.

I used the bus yesterday, and last week. First time in years, as it has become a bargain at £2 a trip and it'd have cost me triple that to drive and park where I was going. I walked on, paid, found an empty seat and tried to ignore everyone else and read my kindle. Nobody needed the adjacent seats on any of these trips but had anyone sat down then that'd be normal and expected. I'd have been mildly annoyed that I hadn't got away with extra space of course but I'm not entitled to it. At no point would I have looked up from my kindle, phone or whatever other escape I had taken with to distract myself from other people in order to see if that person's grandparent, toddler, one-armed bandit sidekick or baby fucking jesus was hovering in the hope I'd go and sit elsewhere or stand somewhere after getting on first. To be fair though I'm not particularly fond of the general public and I'm not one for public transport largely because of the amount of ruffians it attracts (three of those four journeys have been made grim due to anti-social arseholes bellowing, swearing, shouting into their phones etc the other one I had my headphones in so I dunno. Yesterday's vile dickhead went on for well over an hour of the 90 minute trip and I know everything about his pathetic life in the gutter).

The thing is, if I was SO ENTITLED as to expect the world to give my my own private space complete with peace and quiet I'd go by car.

Of course she should not HAVE to and doesn’t NEED to do anything. She was there first. It’s not her problem

I would like to think i would do the decent thing so that child and parent are together: to be honest; two adults too

it boils my piss when people cannot be arsed to be courteous.

Recently, i was on the train from London, a young couple boarded the train and politely asked a man if he would mind moving to the next seat (there were loads of single seats near him including next to me). The man point blank refused. Next thing loads of other passengers stood up and offered to move instead. He made himself look a very unreasonable bastard. 🤣

However, years of commuting can make the best of us selfish .

Isn't it also courteous to ask instead of assuming someone will just move?

...in Mumsnet world? God no!

Wow, as if everything revolves around you and people are always wondering how to make YOUR life easier. She was there first, why should she have to move? The only thing that would make me move in this scenario is if the kid was incredibly loud or annoying.