annoyed woman wont move seats on train

[PrettyPleaseXo]

Currently on the train with my 5 year old. There’s loads of individual seats but none together so I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?

if there were no other seats I’d completely get it but there’s loads of individual ones

Put your child on your lap?

I was in a similar position as the lady on her phone last week and an older couple came along, the wife was standing. I moved immediately so she could sit and continue her conversation with her husband. She said “oh how considerate!” with so much enthusiasm I felt a little sad that such a tiny courtesy was worthy of comment.

Then she should have booked seats !

Mumsnet is full of people who will defend their right not to put themselves out for others, to the bitter end!

I’d offer to move for you in a heartbeat OP! I don’t think it’s worth feeling annoyed over though, she’s “within her rights” after all. It’s just a bit sad, that’s all!

Is OP willing to 'put herself out' in any way though or just expecting others to indulge her?

Op is home with her feet up and a cup of tea 🫖

I have in the past given up my seat for the elderly, women carrying babies, pregnant women, and people on crutches.

I would not give up my seat to a perfectly able bodied parent and a perfectly able bodied child. Sit across the aisle from each other or keep walking through the train until you find two seats close / next to each other. If that's not acceptable then you'll have to stand.

If you have time to be on MN, you have time to politely interrupt the woman's call and ask her.

So you haven't asked her but you're annoyed that she hasn't moved to accommodate you..?
Bit entitled aren't you op ?

Rude bastards. I would reluctantly move for a parent and child, not because I think it's the right thing, but just because I think other people on the train would probably back them up, but not for any random people travelling together.

OP, why did you single out this particular woman?? Why not all the others who, by your post, were also sit singly on double seats?? Seems very strange that you picked on one particular person when it sounds like there were lots of people you could have sat next to!

According to some posters if you ask you'll get a mouthful of abuse..

If she is so concerned about her child why is she posting here and focusing on her phone?

Ridiculous entitlement in this attention-seeking drama.

It’s rude to interrupt a call. The OP could easily ask any number of other people rather than trying to pick on this woman.

Elbow okay - shoulder not okay...

Just speak to her. If she doesn't agree, definitely don't get cross. Smile and say you quite understand and someone else will offer ;)

They definitely aren't. As I found out when I was heavily pregnant. It was women who moved, every single time.

Oh I agree. However it's being stated that if you ask anybody you'll be abused. I don't know how some people manage to leave the house.

If I was on my phone whilst on a train I would turn my back to anyone sat next to me to reduce the risk of annoying them. Are you sure she hasn't turned her back for that reason?

Parent entitlement alert! You didn't reserve a double seat, the woman was sat down first, you didn't ask her if she would mind relocating. YABU.

I was once abused because my child vomited on a train. I was seven months pregnant at the time. There are some really shitty people in this World.

Not nice for the other people to be near but I'd just be glad it wasn't my problem to deal with.

She's 5. If you can see her, she's okay. I used to take the school bus home by myself when I was 5, get off at my stop, and walk the rest of the short way home. She can handle sitting across the aisle from you.

She wasn’t even near my child. She started shouting at me as I walked past her as I left the carriage to put my DC’s soiled clothes in our suitcase outside the carriage. I was trying to make sure that there were no lingering smells inside the carriage. I was being thoughtful…

In this situation I'd sit my daughter on my lap, or, sit in the seat closest next to her, preferably scan for two individuals next to each other.

But, that's me.

Yes, that's rude. Seems like strange behaviour. It's not like you can help it if your child is sick.