annoyed woman wont move seats on train

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Currently on the train with my 5 year old. There’s loads of individual seats but none together so I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?

if there were no other seats I’d completely get it but there’s loads of individual ones

I can see both sides. I think it is a bit poor no one has moved but then it's probably this one woman who doesn't want to move and she doesn't have to. No one else will think to move as your daughter is next to that woman.

You could ask someone else rather than being annoyed on Mumsne or walk down the carriages looking for seats together or someone to move.

I took my two year old on a short train journey recently and two people offered to move. The first was sitting closest to the area where I left my pram (the part where you get on) and then someone else offered a window seat but I declined both as there were some spare seats we could go to. I thought it was nice they offered. The woman opposite us was talking to my son as well.

Who said she was huffing and puffing like a dragon?!

I have to comment. Tonight on a busy commuter train at peak time I was sick. I did manage to get to a bathroom.

When I returned to my seat someone had taken it so I asked a different person on an end seat to move as I felt sick, needed to sit but didn't want to climb over people and bags to get out.

Moment I mentioned I felt ill - 4 people got up. People offered me a drink, mints etc to help.

So restored my faith in people that they will move or better to move then be nearer the sick person!

I don’t think you’re very kind not to realise that there may have been a reason the woman couldn’t move, such as needing a particular facing seat or proximity to her bags or the loo or a myriad other reasons.

I'd move anywhere away from a sick person. I don't want to get sick.

Once, when I was a teenager on the bus, it was very crowded, people standing everywhere. I was really sick with a flu or something and looked every bit as sick. Not one person sat near me.

This. Where there no men you could try to move?

I’d probably have politely asked. I don’t think it’s targeting really - you kind of have to pick someone. Perhaps she genuinely hasn’t thought to offer to move. Announcing it loudly to a carriage sounds a bit weird to me.

I certainly wouldn’t leave someone standing on a train when I could easily move. The people who suggest sitting apart from a 5 year old are ridiculous- I don’t know many 5 year olds that would be at all comfortable with this and at that age my kids still needed me to read to them, provide snacks etc.

Someone having an invisible disability that prevents them standing and moving a couple of metres also sounds a bit unlikely to me.

why is it entitled to hope for a small act of kindness? So many rude and inconsiderate people on here!

If their are so many seats available then pick two in front of each-other, you will still be very close to your child.

I think the point there was that you MENTIONED you were sick. Then people responded.

You had a genuine reason and communicated it and so got a better result than the OP.

I hope you are feeling better now.

🤣🤣🤣

Still looking for a seat maybe 🤭

Why should she move?? Ok I probably would myself but my first thought was she not obligated to give up her seat.

i would have sat my child on my lap.

Absolutely this

This.
I am baffled by women who put the child on the seat and stand themselves. (Is this a sign of my age?) If she's too small to stand, she's small enough to go on your lap.

Maybe she has a disability you cant see (non of your business) Sit down and put child on your knee . Jesus as if youve taken the time to write this on here

Sit down put your daughter on your lap and chat away to your daughter about crap, yes the lady doesn't have to move, but honestly who does it hurt to move to another seat, we are constantly told to be nice (which only seems to apply to women being nice to men)

YABU for being annoyed when you haven’t even asked if she could move.

So what if she’s turned away?

You could just say, “excuse me, I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind moving to one of the empty seats so I could sit by my daughter?”

She might want to stay where she is for various reasons, which is fair enough I guess. Personally I’d happily move if asked.

The OP first posted on Monday lunchtime. She must have got where she’s going by now.

If she was sat there first I don’t see what she should move. Why not sit down and sit your child on another seat. If there’s lots of other seats I’m sure there will be two together. Or individual side by side.

It’s really interesting that you have targeted this particular woman and only this woman.

why not look for a situation of someone sitting in a window and in the next row someone sitting in an aisle and ask them if they would mind consolidating? Or really any two random people sitting close together?

So you chose to seat your daughter in that particular seat then expect someone who has paid good money for their ticket to move to accommodate you? How entitled can you be?
a 5 year old could easily sit on your lap
she could need that seat- hidden disabilities!!
essentially though no one owes you anything despite what you may think.

also find it hilarious that instead of watching your child you’ve taken to MN to write a ridiculous post and made yourself look a fool.

As far as I know if you haven't booked your seat then you sit where you can. It's not your right to sit where you want.

I voted you are being unreasonable to expect her to move, but personally I would have offered my seat so you could sit with her. People are different, maybe she reserved, or maybe she’s not had a seat all day and just couldn’t be bothered getting up and moving.

I don’t know many 5 year olds that would be at all comfortable with this and at that age my kids still needed me to read to them, provide snacks etc.

Why does your 5yr old need snacks and to be read to? Rather unfair on the other passengers.