annoyed woman wont move seats on train

[PrettyPleaseXo]

Currently on the train with my 5 year old. There’s loads of individual seats but none together so I’m stood next to my daughter who’s sat down next to another woman.
AIBU to be a bit annoyed she’s turned her back on my daughter to avoid eye contact and hasn’t moved to another seat so I can sit next to my daughter?

if there were no other seats I’d completely get it but there’s loads of individual ones

Exactly this. ^ Some of the responses on this thread are fucking batshit. 😂

As the OP has not returned I am bowing out now because this whole thread has gone batshit. If you don't move for an entitled woman with a kid you're rude, you're an arse, you've been badly brought up, you're not a decent/nice person, you were probably raised in a barn, shame on you. etc etc. 😜

Fuck me! 😆 I am out of this wacky batshit thread, and am leaving the finger pointing posters scolding all the naughty girls - who refuse to be a nice laydeee, and move for the nice mummy and her bairn. Like why can you not all just #bekind? 😆

What's with all the 'haha's' OP? Is it really that funny?

YABU.

This

This is word for word what I was going to say.

Why people just stay silently annoyed is beyond me. The energy must drain you!

There are loads of reason why the other woman hasn't moved.

She, like my DS, may find she gets travel sick if she's travelling in a different direction and the other seats she can see may be facing that way.

She could be pregnant, feeling off colour, can't be arsed to move, or getting off the next stop so it's a faff.

Or, like I've done, she may be just completely oblivious to the 'dagger eyes' she's getting from the OP who hasn't bothered actually asking if she'd mind moving.

I've been on a train with my DS when he was that age. He sat on my lap or, if the seat space was a bit cramped or we were opposite someone and he'd end up kicking them, I'd sit in a seat where I could see him, wave at him etc., and he'd stay in that seat. Then as soon as the train filled out, I'd grab a two seater and call him over. It's pretty simple. Unless you're having to leave your DD out of sight completely I wouldn't get wound up about it.

Yes, you are being unreasonable.

@SweetBirdsong

Why...why...why...

Because it's nice. Simple as that.

I wouldn't move if it meant going from forward facing to rear facing as it makes me feel ill. I don't see why she should move to be honest.

Presumably all of the individual seats have someone in the other seat so why is it this young woman and no one else who is being unhepful?

It's called passive aggressive behaviour and it's happened to me twice on public transport recently where someone wants your seat, doesn't tell you so, but proceeds to be annoying in the hope you will vacate your seat. Think noisy rude behaviour, tutting, eye rolling, staring, etc.

I gave in the first time - front seats on a bus which I was sitting on with my adult daughter - plenty of seats elsewhere but two young women wanted it. Second time, on a train, I was given so much earache by loud behaviour and eye rolling that i probably should have given in again - but no, I'm not going to be ousted out of my seat when there are others.

I would imagine that's what's happened here. Pick on one victim and then passively aggressively hound her till she moves. Not nice.

The entitlement. 😂

Keep looking for a double or stand. No one is required to move so you can sit next to your child. What makes you so important as a mother that someone who's sat quite comfortably should need to move?

What is wrong with people?

Here’s a new one - sit across the aisle or in the row behind. Your DD won’t disappear into thin air if you’re not in the next seat.

Is this a serious post?
Come on lol.
When my lass was little...id sit her on my lap .. problem solved... whether you bought 2 seats or not

sounds like a short journey then and people need to stop being entitled moaners.

Some people are just rude like that unfortunately and not willing to slightly put themselves out for anyone which is sad. Obviously he doesn’t have to move and is entitled to stay where he is if he was there first but no need to be rude about it

This. The entitlement because what you have a child???

Id just sit across the aisle or in the seat behind in this situation. It’s such a non event.

Don’t kids sit on their mums’ laps anymore?

But you can’t book a seat on all trains. Why is that so difficult to understand?

True.
On short journeys.
You seem very invested in the OP's tragic tale.

It’s not entitlement. Any decent person would move to another seat to let two people who are clearly together to sit next to each other.

This thread is a perfect example of how selfish some people are and how they are unwilling to do anything for others. No doubt it’s the same people who put their bags on the seat next to them so no one else can sit down.

@Gettingcoldergettingolder

I am really surprised by the number of people who wouldn’t move to another seat on here

I don't think that is what the bulk of people are saying. The point is that OP hasn't asked this woman AND she has an entitled attitude expecting her to move and is critical of her failing to leap up by some kind of ESP.

That is totally different from whether any individuals who are asked would or would not move.

For most people, if they could help easily they would if asked but it would depend on whether it was easy - so if you have lots of bags, are working, have a table you need for work and so on, are mid point in a long journey and want window or aisle seat or which ever one you have - you may be less inclined to move if (As here) there are other single seats available. It's particularly notable that it's always women who are expected to move.

Moving for an adult's convenience (just so they can sit next to a child who could sit on their lap) is a voluntary act of kindness.

@SweetBirdsong I would absolutely not ‘have her’ irritate someone else. The nature of her personality however is incredibly inquisitive and chatty and I also would absolutely not tell her to not talk or ask questions in case it annoyed adults around her. Sorry but I don’t subscribe to the sit down shut up method of parenting especially not with my girls. What’s just wow is that you believe that children shouldn’t talk in the company of adults. (And yes I’m making assumptions here just like your post has)

I detest selfish, rude people who won’t do anything for others.

Any decent person would move to another seat to let two people who are clearly together to sit next to each other.

Don't be silly. It might be a kindness to offer but suggesting it's a test of 'decency' is equating decency with doormat behaviour - because it is prioritising others needs before your own. In many cases moving is a real hassle especially if you are all set up with work, laptop, overnight bag and so on.

Adults who are 'clearly together' are capable of coping for the duration of a journey. If you are talking about adults, refusing to move is doing the rest of the carriage a favour so they won't have to listen to the pair of them wittering on and disturbing everyone.

With a child of that age, it's not unreasonable to think she'd have her on her lap if it was a big issue.

Here this is not woman moving the only option because OP has said but there’s loads of individual seats. So she has other places and other people to ask - not that she'd asked this woman.

@BlindurErBóklausMaður not just short journeys - Chiltern Line London to Birmingham you can't book. Midland Mainline (or whatever it's newer name is) London to Birmingham you can't book.
Any journey on Thameslink - so Bedford to Brighton - you can't book.
All journeys of around 2 hours or so.