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To think we should get the double room?

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Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 11:14

We gave a family holiday booked this year - 2 adults in family 1 (my parents), two adults one child in family 2 (us).

My parents offered to pay for the cost of the accommodation as a kind gesture (they are financially better off). The accommodation has one master bedroom with a double bed, and three other twin bedrooms.

Our child has ASD and cosleeps as it’s the only way to guarantee any sort of sleep on what I fear is already going to be a trying week - first time abroad and a big routine change. I asked if we could the the double bed otherwise I’m going to end up squashed in a single with DD. They aren’t keen at ALL. Should probably mention my dad ends up falling asleep on the sofa and staying there all night anyway so my mum will mostly have the double bed to herself.

Im grateful that they paid for the villa but I feel like it’s coming with conditions that aren’t going to be very relaxing for us at all. I would have rather just paid our share and the felt like I could push for the bigger room more.

would you raise this again or just put up and shut up and accept the financial saving?

OP posts:
Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:11

MangosteenSoda · 28/01/2024 13:03

I have the exact same situation with my ASD 8 year old. Cannot fall asleep alone and wakes the moment I twitch, let alone try to move to another bed.

I also frequently holiday with my parents and always get the double bed for this reason, including the one time they paid for the accommodation. In this situation, what works best for the child, works best for everyone.

Another trip, when I paid, both rooms were doubles but one had an en-suite and balcony access while the other one was small and pretty dark. I took the dark room because it was safer to have a room with no balcony access. Our only considerations when choosing rooms are what works best for DC (who the grandparents obviously want to holiday with). We also frequently book accommodation that has more rooms than we need because it meets other requirements so it’s worth it to us. I had no idea that’s considered so weird to so many people.

The replies on this thread have made me want to bang my head against a wall. Can people really not fathom that what’s normal in many situations won’t work in others. But, as you say OP, after a night of musical beds, your mum will likely be moving your belongings into the double room for you.

thank you for understanding! It’s already quite stressful worrying about the whole thing, it just seems like such an obvious gesture on their part to make sure everyone is comfortable

OP posts:
MissAtomicBomb1 · 28/01/2024 13:11

PerfectTravelTote · 28/01/2024 11:34

You parents should get the master bedroom because
1 They're paying for it and

  1. They're your parents

Depending if the country you're going to you might find that the 'double' is actually two singles pushed together anyway.

This! I've never slept in a double abroad. Most places just push two singles together.

moomoomoo27 · 28/01/2024 13:11

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 11:58

I mean there absolutely will be arguments - well prepared for that!

Ohhh okay, so you're doing that thing where you pick arguments so you don't have to go away with them again because they hate you? I've done that with relatives before.

MangosteenSoda · 28/01/2024 13:11

If OP’s child is anything like mine, she will be sleeping with her arms around a very fidgety and wriggly human. Pushing two singles together would be much more uncomfortable than having the double because she would constantly be in the crack/have to sleep entirely on one side of the bed anyway. It’s not the same as just sleeping side by side.

I am aware that I’m projecting here, but it’s really bugging me that hardly anyone on this thread can understand (or accept the OP’s explanation of) what her reality is like.

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:11

SensationalSusie · 28/01/2024 12:47

@Bibbidybobbidyroo

I think a lot of your anxiety relates to the idea of taking your daughter abroad. The sleeping situation is just part of that. I think that is totally resolvable, very very easily. Except for your sofa sleeping father which is frankly very odd and unnecessary when there is a bed for him.

I am giving you some ideas about what might help on hol.

Firstly, if you have DLA for your daughter this will open a lot of doors to getting her support (depends where you’re going but a lot of places accept front page as evidence even abroad).

  • airport support, special assistance, queue skips, priority for boarding on planes and for seats
  • free carer ticket, reduced entry price, queue skips, access to quiet space, sensory bag, sensory maps etc etc

Try and show your daughter where she’ll be going and what she’ll be doing, everything from at the airport to boarding a plane/boat/train/whatever (some autistics have videos posted on you tube of this sort of thing), promo videos, pictures, google maps, websites all help. As can introducing her to the food, music, language whatever before you go so it isn’t all strange to her. Bring her environment with her as much as you can.

Have your plans made in advance, have no more than 2-3 ‘big’ things to do each week. This makes it less overwhelming for her and less stressful for you because it’s enough to be dealing with them when they are there.

If you are swimming invest in swim shoes, swim jacket and some sensory/swim/small world toys (about 10 to play with - floats to chase after, plastic figures, die cast cars) If she is asd likely may have adhd or dcd so always better to have things to occupy or stop them falling.

If none of the above applies for you, I hope it is helpful to someone else.

I’ve saved this post - thank you!

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 28/01/2024 13:11

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 12:54

We paid for this villa what a waste of money
you ruined the holiday over a bed
what’s the point of us going by ourselves
fine you can have the bed (with much sulking)

So make this the last one?

Your DH must be a saint putting up with in-laws like this!

WeekendFreedom · 28/01/2024 13:13

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:03

Why not?

So you’re all clearly able to push singles together? Your parents still more entitled for the double bed as they are paying

Honeychickpea · 28/01/2024 13:13

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 11:30

Thanks all.

we could absolutely have afford to pay our share for the villa - in hindsight I would have just insisted we pay the equal share and have more of a say in who sleeps where.

Maybe I will suggest they ask for the twin beds to be pushed together rather than risk DD falling between it in the night.

they may very well change their tune when DD is up all bloody night because she can’t sleep alone!

Just pay your way and call your shots. So much unnecessary drama!

Freakinfraser · 28/01/2024 13:13

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:11

thank you for understanding! It’s already quite stressful worrying about the whole thing, it just seems like such an obvious gesture on their part to make sure everyone is comfortable

There has to be a back story, such a non issue should cause no one stress. There is effectively three double bedrooms. Simply in two,of them the beds need to be shoved together,

the question is why are you trying to make up and issue, and have a fight over something non existent?

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:13

MangosteenSoda · 28/01/2024 13:11

If OP’s child is anything like mine, she will be sleeping with her arms around a very fidgety and wriggly human. Pushing two singles together would be much more uncomfortable than having the double because she would constantly be in the crack/have to sleep entirely on one side of the bed anyway. It’s not the same as just sleeping side by side.

I am aware that I’m projecting here, but it’s really bugging me that hardly anyone on this thread can understand (or accept the OP’s explanation of) what her reality is like.

Thanks for getting it!

her sleep is probably already going to go to shit - just imagining the beds slipping, the gap widening, praying she doesn’t wake up with the movement because once she’s awake, that’s it. She’s awake.

OP posts:
Freakinfraser · 28/01/2024 13:15

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:13

Thanks for getting it!

her sleep is probably already going to go to shit - just imagining the beds slipping, the gap widening, praying she doesn’t wake up with the movement because once she’s awake, that’s it. She’s awake.

Well no you just shove a king sheet over it, in many hotels they do this and you’d not even know it was two singles.

Confused
Tippexy · 28/01/2024 13:15

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 11:53

The king sheet is a good idea. I might also just message the villa company.

i guess the bigger picture here is more the principle of it. We’ve always let them have the master bedroom but I think given the circumstances I guess I’m just annoyed they are putting their own needs above others. The more I think about it the more i am confident I would still have to work hard to get them to agree to give us the master bedroom even if we had paid for the villa. So perhaps this is just a symptom of a larger issue in our relationship.

Perhaps one of them is neurodiverse too?

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:15

Honeychickpea · 28/01/2024 13:13

Just pay your way and call your shots. So much unnecessary drama!

This is the bigger issue.

they want to pay so they can be the ones in charge.

i am confident that even if we now paid they would still want the master bedroom.

OP posts:
Risun · 28/01/2024 13:16

I think it's pretty obvious that you don't want to go on this holiday OP.

Just don't go, weather the storm.

pizzaHeart · 28/01/2024 13:16

I do get that it’s not about rooms but anyway as the original question was about rooms. We had the same problem child with additional needs was cosleeping for quite a while in a new places. I noticed that 2 singles pushed together is a better option size wise as the double is smaller then 2 singles together.

Freakinfraser · 28/01/2024 13:16

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 13:15

This is the bigger issue.

they want to pay so they can be the ones in charge.

i am confident that even if we now paid they would still want the master bedroom.

And you should wish them to have it, as there is no issue with the other rooms

why are you going away with them when you clearly dislike them so much?

Thegoodbadandugly · 28/01/2024 13:16

Op please don't take this the wrong way but your making a rod for your own back whether your child has ASD or not, you really should be getting her in her own bed whether she gets up in the night or not. Your parents have been very kind to pay for a holiday for you, push the beds together, it's one week or two however long your going for. Then when you get back home start putting your child in her own bed otherwise you will end up with bigger problems in the long run.

ZenNudist · 28/01/2024 13:17

Tinkerbyebye · 28/01/2024 11:17

Oh get over yourself, push two twin beds together

your parents are paying, suck it up

This. I've been lucky to have in law's pay for holiday villas before and MIL gets the massive master bed on her own.

Codlingmoths · 28/01/2024 13:19

I wouldn’t go on holiday with a dad who slept in the living room and thought that meant we should stay out! ‘No, I need a place where I can sit up and read in the living room.’ In your situation, there is no way I would keep dd out of the living room. ‘Can’t you keep her out? No, but you can go to bed. She up because you booked a place with one double bed and you took it and you don’t even have two people sleeping in it! That means your granddaughter can’t sleep so you bloody well should have to be awake, I do. Great holiday.’

MangosteenSoda · 28/01/2024 13:19

Freakinfraser · 28/01/2024 13:13

There has to be a back story, such a non issue should cause no one stress. There is effectively three double bedrooms. Simply in two,of them the beds need to be shoved together,

the question is why are you trying to make up and issue, and have a fight over something non existent?

But it’s not a non issue. The OP knows sleep is going to be an issue and has explained that. She knows the easiest bed to sleep in with her DD will be the double. It’s really not hard to understand that kids with ASD might be dealing with problems that wouldn’t bother anyone else or even impinge on their consciousness. The gap in two singles would cause a sensory problem for my child, would wake them up if I needed to adjust it in the night and would just be another problem on top of the gazillion problems we deal with each day. An avoidable one.

Freakinfraser · 28/01/2024 13:20

MangosteenSoda · 28/01/2024 13:19

But it’s not a non issue. The OP knows sleep is going to be an issue and has explained that. She knows the easiest bed to sleep in with her DD will be the double. It’s really not hard to understand that kids with ASD might be dealing with problems that wouldn’t bother anyone else or even impinge on their consciousness. The gap in two singles would cause a sensory problem for my child, would wake them up if I needed to adjust it in the night and would just be another problem on top of the gazillion problems we deal with each day. An avoidable one.

You put a fitted king sheet over and you’d never know it was two beds and they won’t come apart. It is a non issue.

Bluetrews25 · 28/01/2024 13:21

The options are

Don't go as it sounds like you are stressed about it and anticipate arguments once out there.

Threaten not to go so they will grudgingly give you the bed. This sounds like it will lead to more arguments.

Book separate accommodation

Go but push the singles together and make the best of it

Go but push the singles together and let DD disturb everyone so you coerce parents to swap rooms.

Start training DD to sleep on her own as this will have to happen at some point

Can't think of any other outcomes.

Edit - I'm guessing that your parents feel that DD really should be sleeping separately and this is their clumsy way of both expressing that and also 'encouraging' that to happen.

Muchof · 28/01/2024 13:21

Bibbidybobbidyroo · 28/01/2024 11:30

Thanks all.

we could absolutely have afford to pay our share for the villa - in hindsight I would have just insisted we pay the equal share and have more of a say in who sleeps where.

Maybe I will suggest they ask for the twin beds to be pushed together rather than risk DD falling between it in the night.

they may very well change their tune when DD is up all bloody night because she can’t sleep alone!

Would you not let your parents pick first anyway. 🙄

Rude, entitled and ungrateful are three words that spring to mind reading your posts.

rainbowstardrops · 28/01/2024 13:23

This is ridiculous. You have a child with additional needs and yet you've agreed to go on holiday with your parents without having any input but presumably were happy for them to pay for.
There are enough beds for everyone but the setup clearly doesn't suit everyone's needs/habits.
Why on earth did you agree to this malarkey?!!! I feel sorry for your partner putting up with this crap and your child that has inadvertently been put into this situation too.
Bonkers.

caringcarer · 28/01/2024 13:23

You could push 3 single beds together and all get decent sleep.

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