Ready yourself for the Citizen's Army

[ChedderGorgeous]

Is the head of the army being sensationalist to highlight lack of army funding or is the reality of a citizen's army in the UK a step towards a new era of conscription? Both parties would play anything like this down in an election year.

Also, given how quickly people take offence these days, we'd all be too busy citing each others' micro aggressions to get our bayonets fixed in time.

Yes and there would have to be a thorough risk assessment before anyone was sent into battle.

War is rich men sending poor men to die, and always has been.
As my 20-year old son said earlier today “if the people of the UK are being brought together to fight, you’d hope it would be to overthrow the shit government that dragged us into this, not going to fight some other poor saps in another country”

Just another form of National Service

@Whatafustercluck
"Which brings me full circle: this is all posturing and fear mongering to drive investment in the military. We'd be better investing in diplomatic relations so that those very clever people can continue to keep us all out of all out war in the first place.

While conscription is, theoretically, possible if all of the above fails, it remains a very tiny likelihood."

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You are completely correct which is why I see this thread as a theoretical discussion rather than anything possible or likely.

Yes I have family members actually living there.

Livinginanotherworld · Today 01:20

VeniVidiWeeWee · Today 00:07

So you'd be happy to live under a Nazi state?

I can’t imagine it would be any worse than living under the Tory party we have now, or the so called Labour Party we might expect.

I’m surprised there haven’t been more comments on this.
Livinginanotherworld do you really think living in a Nazi state is no worse than under a Tory or Labour government?
I just hope you’re not Jewish, disabled, gay or left wing.

Hahahahahahaha 🙄

Yep ! 👏👏👏

I think you’ll find #Bekind went out of fashion roughly 3 years ago.

We already have a puppet government and opposition, they are certainly not working for the UK nor are they funded by them.

Women were “conscripted” in WWII, just not into the armed forces. Into the land army, munitions, research etc. it was called “directed labour”.

If another country wanted to invade I'd be asking what they're offering, it might be better than what we have.

QuizzlyBear…well maybe you’re right. Do you have a country or countries in mind?

Sure. If Iran or Russia invade what’s your response

No problem go for it?

You do realise that the biggest aggressors to world peace are the Western governments mainly of US, UK and Israel don’t you ?

Russia absolutely will not invade the UK and if it did, the US won’t defend us. Iran have no intention of invading the uk either.
It’s the UK war mongering government leaders in their action man outfits playing billy big balls as usual sucking up to the US warmongering governments.

So it won’t happen is the answer. Not that you welcome another country’s values as applauding below.

We’re lucky here, hence the posts you get on welcoming invasion or already governed by someone else

I think if we were randomly attacked or invaded young people might feel a duty to fight for their country, but that's not what's happening. The government aren't exactly protecting people in the UK from war at the moment and seem to be trying to invite it.

He didn’t say conscription or National Service, he said ‘volunteer army’ as in doing it for free if you want to.

I’m sure they will be queuing up.

I agree and for a variety of reasons it's not going to happen.

Nevertheless an interesting hypothetical discussion.

@Poorlymumma

"I think if we were randomly attacked or invaded young people might feel a duty to fight for their country, but that's not what's happening"

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The problem is that the type of people who might feel a duty to fight for their country's western values would be doing it to protect the type of people who constantly self hate western values but ironically would the ones to suffer most if those values were removed.

It’s a privilege to be able to post on SM how much you loathe western values and be of little threat to the reality of having them removed

Mn is the height of this at times. Eg pp who would welcome invasion as it would be better etc

I read in the daily fail that having active piles counts you out.
I’m just off to wipe my arse and hope for the best!

I'm sure those in Ukraine, thought it would never happen. I don't think anything is beyond the realms of possibility. Sadly.

@lola8345

"I'm sure those in Ukraine, thought it would never happen. I don't think anything is beyond the realms of possibility. Sadly."

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I meant that the prospect of conscription is hypothetical whereas an attack on the UK particularly a grey zone attack is, as you say, not beyond the realms of possibility.

The present UK government has done so little for the young people of this country they'd have a nerve expecting them to line up for duty eg. Get killed for them

@lola8345 I doubt anyone in Ukraine thought it could "never happen". Ukraine and the UK couldn't be more different in terms of the likelihood of a ground war