Ready yourself for the Citizen's Army

[ChedderGorgeous]

Is the head of the army being sensationalist to highlight lack of army funding or is the reality of a citizen's army in the UK a step towards a new era of conscription? Both parties would play anything like this down in an election year.

if conscription is called upon we are indeed up shit creek

by that time the whole attitude of the country will have slowly evolved

it’ll be a. slow process of acceptance

then will come the injustice and anger as we see innocents dying

before you know it people will be queuing to join up and they’ll be shame on those that don’t

if it were to happen that is

we saw with covid and the media pull it had on changing attitudes - i would never have predicted so many sly people, people happy to leave relatives alone at funerals, terrified of braking ridiculous rules, people more than happy to dob in their neighbours etc. In a short few months people we’d known forever changed overnight! Meanwhile others saw through the none sense and carried on with responsibilities and looked on in wander at how easy people were brainwashed

if it’s going to happen, people will choose to sign up

Women were conscripted into the armed forces. They tried to push my mum into the army in 1942. She was very pretty and had a driving licence - rare for a woman then - they wanted her to drive top brass about. She insisted that she wanted an alternative career and trained as a nurse.

Had a discussion with a kid at work, he was full of 'I ain't fighting for noone' My response was they would need motivated, skilled people, you work 2 days a week and live with your mum at 21. Can't see them wanting you!.😂

Honestly, I can't see it ever happening here again.
Can you imagine the AIBU on here from mumma bears at the thought of their dress wearing, non binary, they pronoun 6ft 3"bearded 21 yr old being called up? 😂

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I quite like the idea of a load of free 'Citizens Army' fitness classes & some time to do it in 'for the good of the Country'.

Getting everyone a little bit fitter would be a good thing all round! Even without a war!

I remember during the anti-nuclear protests one popular slogan was ‘better red than dead’.
Perhaps, but break a rule and working in a Siberian salt mine or rotting in a Soviet jail wouldn’t have been much fun.
Though maybe all those who believed in the slogan would’ve been model Soviet citizens, denouncing their friends and neighbours etc.

Send in the politicians first...

@1dayatatime
Actually I was referring to conscription. They had been at peace for years.
I doubt they thought it would happen.

It would have been hypothetical to think of 50 year old men being forced to enlist. 😢

I think you will find that quite a lot of young rich men also die in wars. Maybe do a bit of research.

Interesting, my husbands don't! Did you do the full 24 years?

@ithinkthatmaybeimdreaming

"I think you will find that quite a lot of young rich men also die in wars. Maybe do a bit of research."

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During the worst of WW1 the average life expectancy of a junior officer in the trenches was 6 weeks.

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“The present UK government has done so little for the young people of this country they'd have a nerve expecting them to line up for duty eg. Get killed for “

This subject came up on Question Time last night and your post seemed very much the consensus among the (mainly Tory voting) audience.

Good luck to anyone trying to impose such a scheme.

@MrsSkylerWhite

"Good luck to anyone trying to impose such a scheme."

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I think it is clear that such a conscription scheme is never going to happen and if it ever did need to happen then it would be too late to be of any use.

So it is very much a hypothetical debate but at the same time reading the views on this thread a very interesting hypothetical debate.

@Alwaysanotherwine I agree totally. I would never have said this would be a thing until covid. Biggest restriction of our freedom since 1940 on very little evidence and people went along with it with knobs on! And then bad mouthed those people who questioned it.

The same will happen here. The young ones will be posting pics of their “ sign up papers” to get likes & comments on social media. I can see it now. Until they get their head blown off or repeatedly raped in a bunker and then it’ll be their poor parents turn to pick up the pieces.

They can throw me and my sons in prison before any of us would fight in a war.

They can throw me and my sons in prison before any of us would fight in a war.

Fair enough bluefrog as regards a war fought overseas, but would you or your sons fight if UK was invaded?

They can throw me and my sons in prison before any of us would fight in a war.

your sons might not share your opinion if the UK was attacked or invaded.

They can throw me and my sons in prison before any of us would fight in a war

How close would the bombs and fighting have to get to your front door before you changed your mind?

If you were in Ukraine now,say, and houses, schools, factories, hospitals in your town were being bombed, would you stay on your sofa with your arms folded? You probably couldn't watch TV or use the Internet because comms works have been destroyed too.

Crikey, somebody's rubbing their thighs

😳 not me!

( ps….it went up to 50 I believe )

I just checked and looked like it went up to 41 in ww2

Hopefully pacifists would not be labelled as cowards nowadays.

In 1942 and after it was all males between 18 and 51. For WW2.

Yes but it started at 41 when the war started. If people are comparing then to now, then would make sense to consider this age, Alex.

Absolutely
Quite agree
Its just you said ‘ I think it went up to’ …so I thought , I’d note it was in fact higher.

Yes fair enough. It went up to 41 when war started was what I meant.