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That if your male child has shoulder length hair it's reasonable to expect other kids will pass comment?

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mrsfinch6 · 23/01/2024 11:05

Dropping DS5 and DS3 off at nursery this morning when the nursery manager took me aside and wanted to “discuss an incident that happened yesterday” I was a bit confused because when I had collected them both the day before everything was fine.

The “incident” was that there is a little boy at nursery with shoulder length, curly blonde hair, and DS3 has been calling him a girl.

The parent of this child went into nursery this morning to report to the staff that my DS was calling him a girl. The nursery manager wanted my assurances that I would be firm with DS at home and have “the conversation” regarding this.

AIBU to say that if you have a 4 year old male child with long blonde hair that it is realistic to expect that other children in that age group will pass comment?

DS3 is very much of the opinion that “pink is for girls, blue is for boys, girls wear dresses and boys wear trousers etc” he only likes typical boys toys, whereas DS5 is a bit less bothered, he picked a pink scooter and is partial to a unicorn, I don’t encourage or discourage either way, however I do believe in sex not gender and whilst I appreciate there are a multitude of reasons why this child has long hair, I don’t think it’s my 3 year olds issue tbh

They are very young kids and yes I have spoken to him and reiterated that we don’t tease other kids and that it’s not kind to pass comment on others appearance but honestly? Reporting it to the nursery? Talk about extreme.

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2mummies1baby · 23/01/2024 13:31

He is a very young child who (quite rightly) thinks that boys have short hair and girls have long hair.

But he doesn't think that 'quite rightly', does he?! Because some girls do have short hair and some boys do have long hair.

You are clearly one of those very tiresome people who post on AIBU with absolutely no intention of considering that you might actually be unreasonable, even when you have repeatedly been told you are.

RedToothBrush · 23/01/2024 13:34

How come all the other three year olds manage to coope with the boy with the long hair and understand him to be a boy, but yours just thinks long hair = girl.

Nothing to do with your very strong sexism over whether boys should have long or short hair....

EveryDayIsASchoolDayOnMN · 23/01/2024 13:34

and DS3 has been calling him a girl

This sentence was your original downfall. It read like he has been told the other child was a boy, but continued to call him a girl on different occasions.

You should have clarified straight away that it was one session this happened. Yes, I do think if it was once and only your child that called him a girl, that the other parents were OTT.

However, you dont know this. This may have happened multiple times with the other child and the nursery is telling all parents whose kids have miss gendered/sexed (take your pick) the kid

Parentofeanda · 23/01/2024 13:35

No, parent your child. Its ridiculous to think hair length has any meaning to Gender/sex whatever. show them men with long hair in history!

Its fair enough about the comments but not in how you have made out like the other kids parents are at fault for keeping his hair long!

Parentofeanda · 23/01/2024 13:35

your son is basically bullying someone For it too.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

HoppingPavlova · 23/01/2024 11:30

@Dantedisciple He's a boy who needs a haircut, but it would be rude to say that he needs a haircut so you are left with he is a boy

Can you explain why you think the boy needs a haircut? Is it so you, an adult, won’t get confused and mistake him for a girl? That seems to be a you problem!

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

Parentofeanda · 23/01/2024 13:36

Unless he just thought he was a girl but it reads like your saying he was teasing the kid about having girl hair

RedToothBrush · 23/01/2024 13:37

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

Huh wot?!

ClimbingHydrangea · 23/01/2024 13:37

I think the OP would argue the sky is green and the grass is pink if it meant she could get a rise out of people.

Theyarehere · 23/01/2024 13:40

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

Christ almighty! Is this comment for real? Why would you think that a boy with long hair would think he was a woman so able to use womens spaces? What utter nonsense.

FeliciteFaff · 23/01/2024 13:40

Whilst I too believe in sex and not chosen gender. I respect personal choice and support anyone who would like me to address them in a certain way. I do this because 1. I’m respectful and 3. I really care for others who think and feel differently.

Feelings are hugely important. I would like to
say you’re completely horrifically unreasonable.

What you are effectively telling your child is that if someone is different to them, then they should be teased for it because they have put themselves out there.

So does this mean that you will be supportive of your child if he wishes to make fun of someone a different race or someone with a disability or someone with special education needs??

I don’t think you have thought this one out for the impact on the other child and your own child is going to be huge based on what you decide.

I couldn’t think of a more unkind response to this situation.

LuckyMoonstone · 23/01/2024 13:40

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

This is the most fucking stupid thing I have ever read

helpihaveateen · 23/01/2024 13:41

The kid probably needs a hair cut!
does it look “neat” or a blooming mess?!

it’s not your fault … nursery could be engaging with the books and other resources they have available. Chances are 90%+ of what the children see at nursery the boys will have shorter hair than the girls.

yes you can say “James is a boy, I know he has long hair, that’s his choice”, but where it’s a one off comment it’s not unreasonable.

it’s a learning point for a three year old. & well done to you for reinforcing it, but don’t over do it!
a small “correction” of an observation is all that’s needed not being berated and educated on every male that has ever had long hair !!

observations about people are healthy and normal ! Shows he has an awareness of what’s going on around him.

he sounds like a lovely three year old to me!

dimllaishebiaith · 23/01/2024 13:41

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

Hard disagree

TRAs rely on gender stereotypes

Reinforcing gender stereotypes plays right into their hands

Justpontificating · 23/01/2024 13:41

No I don’t think it’s reasonable.
My three boys all had (two still have ) long hair my eldest grew his to about waste length.
He cut it back when he was about 11, but still long.
No one ever called him a girl. You’d get the odd, wow great hair comment.
Even at football practices opposing teams who didn’t know him didn’t say anything.
The same goes for my other two.

As an aside at school in a Governors meeting the HT said there would be a new rule that all boys had to have short hair. My dh, a school Governor, pointed out that was sexist and all girls should have to cut their hair too. HT settled for tying it back😀

Justpontificating · 23/01/2024 13:42

LuckyMoonstone · 23/01/2024 13:40

This is the most fucking stupid thing I have ever read

But so funny. Blimey….they walk amongst us

Newusernameforthiss · 23/01/2024 13:43

LOL my dad (75 yo) has shoulder length white hair. What have you said to your son about... WIZARDS????

I've mistaken small boys with flowing locks for girls, I said, so sorry, my mistake! Anyone can have any haircut they like.

Because they can 👍

luckylavender · 23/01/2024 13:43

mrsfinch6 · 23/01/2024 11:05

Dropping DS5 and DS3 off at nursery this morning when the nursery manager took me aside and wanted to “discuss an incident that happened yesterday” I was a bit confused because when I had collected them both the day before everything was fine.

The “incident” was that there is a little boy at nursery with shoulder length, curly blonde hair, and DS3 has been calling him a girl.

The parent of this child went into nursery this morning to report to the staff that my DS was calling him a girl. The nursery manager wanted my assurances that I would be firm with DS at home and have “the conversation” regarding this.

AIBU to say that if you have a 4 year old male child with long blonde hair that it is realistic to expect that other children in that age group will pass comment?

DS3 is very much of the opinion that “pink is for girls, blue is for boys, girls wear dresses and boys wear trousers etc” he only likes typical boys toys, whereas DS5 is a bit less bothered, he picked a pink scooter and is partial to a unicorn, I don’t encourage or discourage either way, however I do believe in sex not gender and whilst I appreciate there are a multitude of reasons why this child has long hair, I don’t think it’s my 3 year olds issue tbh

They are very young kids and yes I have spoken to him and reiterated that we don’t tease other kids and that it’s not kind to pass comment on others appearance but honestly? Reporting it to the nursery? Talk about extreme.

You sound part of the problem

luckylavender · 23/01/2024 13:44

mrsfinch6 · 23/01/2024 11:42

I have spoken with DS and explained that some boys have long hair and regardless of hair length it is not kind to tease any of the children in his nursery class.

I will again reiterate that my child is 3 years of age and all of the commenters on this post must be perfect parents with perfect children.

He has not been "repeatedly teasing" this child, he has passed comment on one particular day (obviously as far as I am aware) and it has now been raised to me so I've addressed it.

I still stand by my original statement that if a 4 year old child has shoulder length, curly blonde hair then it is to be expected that other children in that age group will pass comment.

Unless of course they are the perfect children of al the posters so far on this thread 🙄

If they've been indoctrinated you mean

Reugny · 23/01/2024 13:45

Newusernameforthiss · 23/01/2024 13:43

LOL my dad (75 yo) has shoulder length white hair. What have you said to your son about... WIZARDS????

I've mistaken small boys with flowing locks for girls, I said, so sorry, my mistake! Anyone can have any haircut they like.

Because they can 👍

Your dad is clearly a hippie druggie according to some posters.

onlyforeignerinthevillage · 23/01/2024 13:45

WTF does ‘sex, not gender’ have to do with hair length????

You’re absolutely ridiculous and teaching your children to become bullies!

ReadytoFly · 23/01/2024 13:45

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

WTAF.

I can't even begin to respond to this. Beyond stupid.

Isitreallythough · 23/01/2024 13:46

Yabu. They only want you to talk to him. If he knows the other child is a boy he’s teasing him so it makes sense for you to just reinforce that we don’t do that. I don’t see that your views on gender come into it. Boys are allowed to have long hair and it would be really nice if parents encouraged their children to let them be!

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2024 13:47

Theyarehere · 23/01/2024 13:40

Christ almighty! Is this comment for real? Why would you think that a boy with long hair would think he was a woman so able to use womens spaces? What utter nonsense.

I doubt this bullshit comment is for real.

2mummies1baby · 23/01/2024 13:47

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 13:35

He has to get used to being a boy.

The more we encourage little boys to have long hair the more they will want to invade women's safe spaces when they are big boys.

Absolutely ridiculous. The only things that make a boy a boy are chromosomes and genitals, both of which have bugger all to do with hair length.