Male born person wins women’s golf tournament and is now “worried about his safety” - interviewed by GMB (Title edited by MNHQ)

[HermioneKipper]

Why the hell are GMB gaslighting women with this stuff?

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1749329378352275568

This is an enormous male-bodied person - even larger than the interviewing man!

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We have entered the twilight zone. The police actually protecting these paedos with fetishes over young girls

what a time to be alive 😵‍💫

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@TheKeatingFive I don't use the word 'trans' because as mentioned before I don't believe in the ideology around it.

I believe that some people struggle with their physical body, especially around puberty, some struggle with the expectations and limitations that cultures put upon them due to their sex. Others are experiencing a trauma response due to previous experience and there are many other reasons why some of these people are adopting transideological beliefs.

I would like to support those people - I fit into one of those categories but I am not 'trans' (although Stonewall would disagree). I'm just me.

I remember hearing a talk by Katy Jon Went who talked about 'a million different genders' - I don't disagree with the meaning of this, which I believe is just simple acceptance of who we are, how we style our hair, what we wear and our personality.

Great and very clear post

Good to see that this thread has been resurrected after being inexplicably hidden by MNHQ. So many powerful comments from women utterly sick of this whole charade.
The story upthread of the Canadian adult male (uni professor!) who claims to be a woman being allowed to compete against 13 year old girls shows just what WILL happen in the UK unless all this is challenged.

I'm not sure why the title needed editing. We all know what a male born person is.

Have you met a man, apart from those who want to compete, who thinks men should be allowed in women's sports? Every man I know thinks it is ridiculous.

I’m glad this is back but I’m not sure why the title had to be edited. What we can say seems to change

We can say 'male' but 'man' sometimes gets zapped.

What a time to be alive.

Mumsnet, you are be definition a women friendly site, set up by women, aimed at women.
Taking this post down, amending the title, disappointing!! stop pandering to the men of this world!!
Freedom of speech.. you seem to really struggle with anything trans..the suffragettes would be very disappointed with you...they weren't about making money with crazy amounts of advertising they were about women rights.

Stop this anti women censorship!

Women should be strong and proud.

Pointing out cheaters (and why they are cheaters) is dripping with hate. Catch yourself on.

Excellent back from the dead! That should annoy some posters!

Absolutely @Dantedisciple . The GMB interview mentioned was (yesterday) followed by Susannah and Ed Balls falling off the fence and commenting that women's sport really should be reserved for women for fairness reasons.
Men get this and the comments under articles in the sports sections are generally full of enraged men - all now fully educated about the Lia Thomas's of the world.

I gave birth to one of those ‘male born people’. He was a baby boy then. He’s a man now. He hasn’t entered any women’s sports though. I would call him a cheat if he did.

‘Male born person’ oh dear.

I don't think it is pandering to the men of this world I think it is pandering to the law of the UK.
Have you ever met a man who is in favour of men or male born persons competing in women's sport?

Yes,let the pervert swim on his own.

Really disappointed by the title change. What on earth is a ‘male-born person’ - surely that it is just a male?!

If the poster considers that a male is a man then they are entitled to that view, just as others are entitled to disagree. It’s not for mumsnet to censor language.

TERF is a ridiculous misnomer. But I don’t think the ‘I’m not a TERF’ argument really plays in to the whole TRA nonsense.

Thing is, TRAs might throw the term around as an insult but I just don’t think it’s worth being insulted by or distancing myself from. They may as well be shouting ‘you are a poo-poo-head’ for all that it’s bullshit.

The position TRAs shout TERF at is really just a pretty standard position that most of us would fit in to.

From the TRA perspective, I think that including female people (trans men) as female would be viewed as hideously ‘trans exclusionary’. But obviously less important trans exclusion because it isn’t centred abound male wants.

Which law do you think requires women to never use the word 'man' to refer to a male?

I did agree to the edit in the interests of keeping the thread up. I think it’s so important that as many people see this stuff as possible.

There’d been lots of reports as the TRAs were out in force on this one.

So in order not to get it zapped I’ll stick with saying ‘male’ rather than man. (Although we all know the truth, even mumsnet really)

It’s not the male bit that’s really stupid. It’s the male born bit that is pure pandering to TRAs.

They aren't obliged to act on those reports though. I'm sure HQ know what a man is.

It's perfectly reasonable to call a man a man and giving you the choice of amending your truthful language or facing permanent deletion is exactly what we've been discussing on this thread. Women having to subjugate themselves to appease the very men who are harming us.

This thread is just gonna be uber Terfy no doubt like Gwen Stefani.

Has Gwen Stefani become a terf? I hope so 🥰

Imagine the uproar if someone pretended to have a disability that the did not in order to game the system.

This has happened on multiple occasions and there has been uproar. The classification system for Paralympic sport is so flawed I don’t think it’s worth watching.

Strangely though, the concerns of women over essentially the same problem are often ignored. But there has been progress with the outrage. Certain sports have made changes so there is some hope.