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Male born person wins women’s golf tournament and is now “worried about his safety” - interviewed by GMB (Title edited by MNHQ)

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HermioneKipper · 23/01/2024 00:15

Why the hell are GMB gaslighting women with this stuff?

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1749329378352275568

This is an enormous male-bodied person - even larger than the interviewing man!

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https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1749329378352275568

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lola8345 · 23/01/2024 10:35

Gary linker, doesn't have any daughters, he'd change his tune if he had girls competing in professional sports.

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2024 10:37

thatsnicedeer · 23/01/2024 10:03

I find it incredible on the interview that they happily acknowledge the physical advantages of men over women "if they haven't been taking treatment" but completely ignore the advantage they have from decades of male development. I also feel the interviewer should have asked a follow up question at this point, asking about the obvious physical advantages this player has over players born as women and their opinion on that

Yes, although I think the film footage was quite helpful in demonstrating that whatever 'treatment' the person in question had had, he remains very tall, muscular and manly.

OvaHere · 23/01/2024 10:37

SchoolQuestionnaire · 23/01/2024 10:20

Again, I didn’t say that we should be involved. I have specifically said a number of times that trans women should not be in women’s spaces. I just made the point that I think that they should have their own space where they can feel safe.

They don't want their own spaces and they've repeatedly demonstrated that. Spaces that don't contain women and are only accessible by other men with identities is not validating. We are props in their fantasy life. It's never been about having a physical space.

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 10:37

Again, I didn’t say that we should be involved.

Yet you think people should override their own senses to affirm cheaters delusions about themselves in the name of 'respect'.

We don't owe this man respect, why shouldn't we just tell him to sling his hook and be done with it

pickledandpuzzled · 23/01/2024 10:38

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 10:37

Again, I didn’t say that we should be involved.

Yet you think people should override their own senses to affirm cheaters delusions about themselves in the name of 'respect'.

We don't owe this man respect, why shouldn't we just tell him to sling his hook and be done with it

Because he’ll be terribly worried about his safety. Be kind. 😉

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 10:41

Ah 'be kind'

Only ever a one way street

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 23/01/2024 10:41

They've already got their own space/category.

In their own sex class regardless of how they identify.

EdithStourton · 23/01/2024 10:43

Overcooker · 23/01/2024 00:56

I have concerns around trans women in women’s sport but this thread is just dripping with hate. I hope it’s deleted.

Late to the party, but I'd say it's radiating fury.

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 10:48

but this thread is just dripping with hate. I hope it’s deleted.

Women telling cheating men 'no' is 'dripping with hate'

God help us all. 🙄

WickedSerious · 23/01/2024 10:52

SchoolQuestionnaire · 23/01/2024 10:21

Where exactly did I say that it’s up to women to sort out?

Where exactly did I say that you said it's up to women to sort it out?

thatsnicedeer · 23/01/2024 10:52

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 10:41

Ah 'be kind'

Only ever a one way street

Women be kind and sweet in all things, and above all else, know your place.

Brefugee · 23/01/2024 10:55

StragglyTinsel · 23/01/2024 10:31

I’m saying that you keep announcing you’re not ‘TERFy’ but your actual position is exactly the same as the ‘TERF’ one.

Oh dear. I'm not a terf because unlike you, I include trans men in women's spaces. FFS

I literally don't care if people call me a terf because sticks and stones. But my point is it's not trans men saying that is it? no. Because a lot of the indignation and testeria is coming from TRAs. And while i don't want to go all "tru trans" because that is also completely bonkers, a lot of these TRAs are on holiday in Malaga or just MRAs out to put the boot in.

So whatever.

The bottom line is: Men don't belong in women's sport. And nobody should be getting threats.

Brefugee · 23/01/2024 10:57

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2024 10:35

I think you're both violently agreeing with each other tbh 😁

i replied directly, i don'T know if ST isn't actually reading my posts but i have been very clear that i include trans men in women's spaces and sport (except if they're taking T for the sport thing)

Which makes me trans inclusive. So nyah. or something 😜
And i literally don't care if some random on teh interwebz calls me a terf. I'm not insulted by that (even tho, as i said, i technically am not)

commonsense61 · 23/01/2024 11:02

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

HermioneKipper · 23/01/2024 11:06

Brefugee · 23/01/2024 10:55

Oh dear. I'm not a terf because unlike you, I include trans men in women's spaces. FFS

I literally don't care if people call me a terf because sticks and stones. But my point is it's not trans men saying that is it? no. Because a lot of the indignation and testeria is coming from TRAs. And while i don't want to go all "tru trans" because that is also completely bonkers, a lot of these TRAs are on holiday in Malaga or just MRAs out to put the boot in.

So whatever.

The bottom line is: Men don't belong in women's sport. And nobody should be getting threats.

You do realise that “TERFS” also welcome trans men into women’s spaces - because they’re female.

its the TW - ie males - that we don’t welcome.

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 23/01/2024 11:08

To break it down for those on the fence.

Grown men entering female sporting competitions because they claim to have special lady feelings = stunning and brave.

Actual women saying no to men who insist on trampling on their boundaries = 'dripping with hate'

These men are trolling us ffs.

We don't let men in those spaces, so why should we let a special group of men in those spaces?

Yes, why is there now a subset of men who are suddenly and inexplicably exempt from all the rules and regulations that apply to all other men, based on nothing but their feelings?

Why are people so quick to pretend that these men are now magically not men for fear of hurting these men's feelings, especially as they clearly give no fucks for the feelings of women?

There is no reason, logic, or even a coherent definition of 'trans'. It's just whatever anyone says it is on any given day.
The entire ideology is based on feelings not facts.
They have nothing but emotional blackmail and threats to shut women up.

When you see these men as men, cold hard facts, you see what is actually happening to women's rights and protections. How we are being fucked over once again my men.

'Dripping' with male entitlement.

'Be kind' = women, be complicit in your own oppression while men take advantage of your female socialisation as they redefine your sex class and remove your rights.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 11:10

Boys are frequently told to 'be kind'. Perhaps that must stop too.

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 11:12

Boys are frequently told to 'be kind'

Are they?

Doesn't seem to have sunk in for our friend the golfer. Funny that.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 11:13

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 11:12

Boys are frequently told to 'be kind'

Are they?

Doesn't seem to have sunk in for our friend the golfer. Funny that.

Non-stop in nursery and primary. Personally i think it is a good thing. but many on here clearly don't.

Brefugee · 23/01/2024 11:13

HermioneKipper · 23/01/2024 11:06

You do realise that “TERFS” also welcome trans men into women’s spaces - because they’re female.

its the TW - ie males - that we don’t welcome.

It is literally wrong to call someone who welcomes TM a terf, is my point. Literal genocide or something 😁

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 11:16

Personally i think it is a good thing. but many on here clearly don't.

It's not a good thing when it's only one way and at the expense of one's own boundaries. I would have thought that was obvious.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 11:18

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 11:16

Personally i think it is a good thing. but many on here clearly don't.

It's not a good thing when it's only one way and at the expense of one's own boundaries. I would have thought that was obvious.

You haven't yet established that your boundaries are reasonable.

And you have confused me about something being 'one-way'. What is that?

TheKeatingFive · 23/01/2024 11:20

You haven't yet established that your boundaries are reasonable.

Thats just gaslighting honey, jog along now.

EasternStandard · 23/01/2024 11:28

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 11:18

You haven't yet established that your boundaries are reasonable.

And you have confused me about something being 'one-way'. What is that?

Do you think wanting to limit female professional sport to women only is unreasonable?

Or are you saying it’s ok for males to compete in single sex competitions

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2024 11:31

EdithStourton · 23/01/2024 10:43

Late to the party, but I'd say it's radiating fury.

Yes, but we know that women are not allowed to be angry.

It is labelled 'hate'.

One effect this is having is undermining what was once a thing - when 'hate crime' encompasses refusing to agree that a man has become a woman, we are doing a disservice to anyone who has experience an actual hate crime, racist, disablist, ageist, homophobic, and yes transphobic.

Almost everyone agrees that trans people deserve to be protected from discrimination and be able to live their lives free of abuse and harassment. This is not the same as 'do whatever you like whenever and I'll do whatever you say'.

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