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Not using someone’s shortened name

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ChilliPB · 22/01/2024 15:01

My DH’s name is one that had a well known/obvious shortened version - similar to Nick for Nicholas or Sam for Samuel. He never, ever uses his full name. Neither does the vast majority of his friends, family etc. He would introduce himself using his shortened name to anyone new.
Fairly lighthearted but I find it really weird that both his parents use his full name, plus a few friends. Isn’t it a bit rude to insist on using someone’s full name when it’s not their preferred name? If you are someone that does this - why?!

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IncompleteSenten · 22/01/2024 19:51

Ponderingwindow · 22/01/2024 17:54

I hate shortened versions of names. Hate them with an irrational passion. I have a name with many versions and I just want to scream when people try to shorten it. I realize that my extreme stance on this is bizarre, but I can’t help how strongly I feel.

I intentionally gave my own child a name that could not be shortened. We did not consider any names that had alternative versions.

I always call people by their preferred name. Even though I am irrational and think they are ridiculous for not using their legal name, I still use their preferred name.

Have you had anyone lengthen it yet?
Anne becomes Annie, that sort of thing.
I have found sometimes that when a name cannot be shortened some people lengthen it as a nickname.
People are weird. 😁

changingllace · 22/01/2024 20:06

I'm a bit of the fence with this one. I have a child with one of these names and have always used his full name. I'm not silly, I know when he starts school he will eventually shorten it (probably) but in my head, the short version isn't his name / sounds odd ( a doctor said it once and I was like they were talking about another person). But, if he really wanted to be know as something else I guess I'd have to really try to use it

Toooldtoworry · 22/01/2024 21:04

NYnewname · 22/01/2024 17:01

My parents deliberately gave me a name that cannot be shortened. It's only one syllable.

It is quite common for people to lengthen it.

Drives me nuts.

Ah, now I did this for my son. People assume he is 'Thomas' instead of 'Tom' not real name but get the gist

I deliberately chose the short version because I didn't like the other options the name could be shortened to.

Mimami · 22/01/2024 21:08

Maybe he can just tell his parents he doesn't like them calling him it? Although to be fair they chose to give him the full name so should be able to use it, it is his name!

Wrongsideofpennines · 22/01/2024 21:13

I think this is quite normal of parents to do. Particularly when they chose the name. I know people whose parents have deliberately chosen a name that doesn't have a common/obvious nickname because they want the name they choose to be the one that's used.

Personally it wouldn't bother me. But I go by my long name at work and with certain family friends but all the rest of the time use my nickname. I just need to remind myself of which name I use when signing cards to some people!

Mnk711 · 22/01/2024 21:17

I agree that it's rude and you should follow someone else's lead on what they want to be called, even if you are their parents.

CuriositysCat · 22/01/2024 21:26

We use DD’s full 3-syllable name mostly, as that’s what we named her and have always known her as. Friends and teachers use the 2-syllable abbreviation and occasionally a 1-syllable abbreviation of that. She is happy with all of these. I think the way in which we use people’s names is an interesting feature of our relationships.

cortex10 · 22/01/2024 21:26

We deliberately chose a classic name for DS because we liked the short version, e.g., Ed for Edward (but registered his name as the long version). Family and friends and us have always used the short version, but now he’s an adult I've noticed that he often uses the long version in formal situations. And his GF always refers to him using the full version.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 22/01/2024 22:04

They're his parents Confused. Shortenings and nicknames evolve organically, but clearly for them, he's still Nicholas. I think if anyone gets a pass on this, it's them.

Yes I'd find it very weird for anyone else to call him the long name.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 22/01/2024 22:10

BubbleBubbleBubbleBubblePop · 22/01/2024 18:46

Most parents use their childs full name, I wouldn't say there's anything rude about it.

It’s rude when your adult child has asked you specifically

SwirlyWhirls · 22/01/2024 22:15

Flickersy · 22/01/2024 15:02

Does he find it rude?

If not, no problem.

My brother is <long name> to his family, but <nickname> to his friends. He actually doesn't like us using the nickname.

My brother was also always <long name> to immediate family and <short name> to everyone else. It would have felt really strange to me to call him the short name. But, to be fair, he never asked us to switch or told us he didn’t like <long name> so presumably he didn’t mind. I think it would have felt weird to him if I used <short name> too!

Outthedoor24 · 22/01/2024 22:20

I think it's common for parents to stick with the full name, after all they choose it, even if friends and other generations use the short form.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 08:01

PrincessHoneysuckle · 22/01/2024 16:41

My brother is known by a shortening of his surname by all his friends and even his partner.
Me and our parents call him by his first name because that's what we know him by.No biggie.

Prince, it is a biggie if he doesn't like it.

That said I loathe (that is probably too strong a word) people who are precious about what they are called. They are invariably hard work.

Ponderingwindow · 23/01/2024 14:02

IncompleteSenten · 22/01/2024 19:51

Have you had anyone lengthen it yet?
Anne becomes Annie, that sort of thing.
I have found sometimes that when a name cannot be shortened some people lengthen it as a nickname.
People are weird. 😁

We thought of that as we were choosing names. Our shortlist only had names that could also not be lengthened easily.

my irrationality on this issue is serious. Thankfully my DH wasn’t hard to convince. We are both saddled with names that come with multiple diminutives and variations.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 23/01/2024 14:20

That said I loathe (that is probably too strong a word) people who are precious about what they are called. They are invariably hard work.

Clearly you weren't saddled with a stupid name, or a name you hate, by your parents. Some of us weren't so lucky.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 14:24

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 23/01/2024 14:20

That said I loathe (that is probably too strong a word) people who are precious about what they are called. They are invariably hard work.

Clearly you weren't saddled with a stupid name, or a name you hate, by your parents. Some of us weren't so lucky.

I have a name that lends itself to teasing. Not dreadful but not great.

Its people with big egos and people who make a fuss who get me down. Far worse than an unfortunate name.

Normandy144 · 23/01/2024 14:24

I go by the short version of my name and have done ever since I can remember. My mum uses the short version but my Dad always calls me by the long version. It honestly doesn't bother me in the slightest. I can see why he uses it - it is after all the name they gave me. When growing up I hated the long version because it felt too formal so I opted for the short version but now I actually don't mind the long version but I feel like it's too late now to switch it back.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 23/01/2024 14:26

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 14:24

I have a name that lends itself to teasing. Not dreadful but not great.

Its people with big egos and people who make a fuss who get me down. Far worse than an unfortunate name.

Try growing up with an utterly stupid name and you'd likely see it different.

Names are important and it's not difficult to call people what they want to be called.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 14:51

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 23/01/2024 14:26

Try growing up with an utterly stupid name and you'd likely see it different.

Names are important and it's not difficult to call people what they want to be called.

That wasn't quite my point. I understand not wanting to be called an unpleasant name. What I don't really agree with you about is that names are important. I don't think they (usually) are and I think people who think they are are often precious egotists - that is ruder that I mean to be. Perhaps I just think they are difficult fusspots.
I can't stand titles either - from Your Majesty down to plain old Mrs.
I suppose for me, my identity isn't wrapped up in a name. And I don't think anyone's should be.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/01/2024 15:01

@Dantedisciple - I see my name as being a central part of my identity - it’s not just a label, it’s a part of who I am. I did find it difficult when my mum refused to use the shortened version of my name that I prefer - I feel that the full name is not who I am now.

When I decided I was going to be known by the shortened version of my name, it was part of a big change in my life, and because that big change was positive (I got a degree, made some life long friends, and met dh), the shortened name is associated with that, in my mind. But the time of my life when I was known by the full name was, in the main, not a happy time - it is the time when I was relentlessly bullied for years, leading to depression and low self esteem - so I don’t think it is unreasonable of me to want to be known by the name that has the happy associations, and not the one with the really unhappy ones. I don’t think that is ‘precious’ or egotistical of me.

I did try to understand where my mum was coming from - but she chose a name she liked, with a shortened version that she really didn’t like, and then expected to be able to make that decision for her adult daughter.

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 15:11

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 23/01/2024 15:01

@Dantedisciple - I see my name as being a central part of my identity - it’s not just a label, it’s a part of who I am. I did find it difficult when my mum refused to use the shortened version of my name that I prefer - I feel that the full name is not who I am now.

When I decided I was going to be known by the shortened version of my name, it was part of a big change in my life, and because that big change was positive (I got a degree, made some life long friends, and met dh), the shortened name is associated with that, in my mind. But the time of my life when I was known by the full name was, in the main, not a happy time - it is the time when I was relentlessly bullied for years, leading to depression and low self esteem - so I don’t think it is unreasonable of me to want to be known by the name that has the happy associations, and not the one with the really unhappy ones. I don’t think that is ‘precious’ or egotistical of me.

I did try to understand where my mum was coming from - but she chose a name she liked, with a shortened version that she really didn’t like, and then expected to be able to make that decision for her adult daughter.

It's great that you have turned your life around. I mean that. I am not being sarcastic.

I do try and call people by their preferred names, but the people who pointedly correct me or others don't half irritate. Just let it go. You are much, much more than your name - at least i hope you are.

CrushingOnRubies · 23/01/2024 15:14

Haha

My pate ts are the only people who call me by my actual name. I have to think and go oh yes that's me.

Mum is like I'm not going to stop so she notices others call me by my nickname name. Annoys me a little bit but not enough to make a fuss over

Melroses · 23/01/2024 15:23

It could be worse. I used to ring a school friend - her dad would answer (I think he had charge of the phone). I used to ask for her by name, then he would call for her by another name. 🤪

He used to do the same when you were there - you have a conversation using one name, and he would turn to her and address her by the other name.

Turned out everyone used her first name, but her father who used her middle name.

LadyBird1973 · 23/01/2024 15:26

His mum and dad chose a name they loved for their child. Unless he specifically asks them to use the shortened version, I'd say they have every right to carry on calling him by his actual name and that this is none of your business.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 23/01/2024 15:29

Dantedisciple · 23/01/2024 14:51

That wasn't quite my point. I understand not wanting to be called an unpleasant name. What I don't really agree with you about is that names are important. I don't think they (usually) are and I think people who think they are are often precious egotists - that is ruder that I mean to be. Perhaps I just think they are difficult fusspots.
I can't stand titles either - from Your Majesty down to plain old Mrs.
I suppose for me, my identity isn't wrapped up in a name. And I don't think anyone's should be.

You may not think names are important, and they may not be important to you, but they are to others.

It far more egotistical to think what is or isn’t important to you should have the same importance, or lack of, to others.