I started a thread about how much I hate the word Cum and it got deleted

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I don't know why.

It was quite an interesting discussion.

I maintain that I hate the word cum and I'm not sure when 'come' to orgasm, to arrive, to reach one's sexual destination got bastardised to the really base and crude word cum, it's redolent of grubby blokes, it's seedy, it's horrible.

Anyhoo, I'm not sure why I was deleted, I think maybe one poster thought I was a seedy bloke that wanted women to discuss that word.

Promise I'm not!

It was an interesting discussion up to the point of deletion.

Because English has 5 vowel letters with 20 different main pronunciations plus a further subset if you count diphthongs and triphthongs.

Perhaps.

Out of interest...how do you pronounce "women" (y'know, what with it not having an "i" in it)

@0rangeCrush wasn't the one calling other posters tools.

"Indeed, the Latin and Welsh Cum/Cwm are pronounced with an almost invisible vowel. So Cm."

No, the Welsh word 'cwm' isn't pronounced like that at all. It's pronounced /kʊm/.

You can hear the pronunciation of cwm here: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Cwm%2C_Sir_Ddinbych.ogg

Thank you! I use that word more than the average non-Welsh person (don’t ask!) and I was genuinely worried I pronounced it wrong.

I didn’t.

I started secondary school in the mid 90’s. Definitely plenty of cum around…

Excellent.

We can all agree then that language is interesting, worthy of study, and inconsistent across regions and class.

Given all the above.

I still hate the word cum.

And as I said IT'S BUGGER ALL TO DO WITH PRONUNCIATION.

It is the written word. Cum.

Wait till you hear someone say to 'he cumd' - I can give or take the come/ cum (gross) debate, but that really made me cringe!

Does no one have any class anymore? The word is gross and so is repeatedly trying to shock people to get attention by using it.

Im guessing eg how many red flags for the thread omg ?

That's not how my husband pronounces cwm.

That's a very North-Walian pronunciation.

You may as well compare the different pronunciations of laugh throughout England.

But as I've already explained, this whole thread is not about spoken words.

It's about a written word.

A. Written. Word.

Well now I'm even more intrigued

Do you mean you pronounce sum like a Yorkshire sum but some like a Southern some?

In all fairness, I don’t think anyone is taking anything you say about pronunciation as anything more than nonsense.

Yep. I'm a super perv that gets my kicks by having a 12 hour argument about the pronunciation of some.

There's probably easier ways.

I can assure you; any time I use the word “cum” I have my audiences full attention already.

There is only one person in my audience, but that’s beside the point.

Yes!

That's absolutely right.

Sum I say with flat and short vowels.

Some I say with soft and long.

They're different words!!

I still have respect for OP and my family are posh (or at least parvenu) Yorkshire so I can imaging more easily how the two would be differently pronounced. But about half an hour before she said this about her own thread - sorry if you’re a man - we’re supposed to be arguing about spelling!

*That's not how my husband pronounces cwm.

That's a very North-Walian pronunciation.*

This makes it sound like somehow north-walian pronunciation somehow isn't "welsh"

It takes a huge amount of arrogance to come on a thread as an English person and be so dismissive of a welsh posters post about how to pronounce a Welsh word

Thanks very much.

Deffo not a bloke.

My accent always confuses people!

I’m glad others hate the word too.

"That's not how my husband pronounces cwm."

The basic pronunciation is the same in the north and the south. I also gave you the IPA.

If your husband really says cm with no vowel sound in between, he's mad.

In this clip you hear south Walians say Pobol y Cwm, Cwmderi and Caffi'r Cwm. The first two who speak don't sound like Welsh speakers, but the pronunciation at 1.38 sounds like a Welsh speaker from SOUTH Wales.

I don't find it vulgar, I do say it tbh but then its not said or meant in a vulgar manner. I think W* sounds vulgar!

"It takes a huge amount of arrogance to come on a thread as an English person and be so dismissive of a welsh posters post about how to pronounce a Welsh word"

It happens quite a lot on MN to be honest and quite often if a Welsh speaker corrects them they will use the argument that it's regional. Of course, there are regional differences, but the pronunciation of 'w' in 'cwm' isn't one of them.

It's muc backwards...sums it up nicely.

Sorry, I didn’t complete my sentence so my post didn’t make much sense OP! My boyfriend is similar, his voice sounds like fairly demotic RP until he just slips in the random short A here and there - path and bath not paaath and baaaath.

i just ment it as in many posters when they dont agree with a thread and even if no rules are broken, because of pinging hq they usually get deleted, which has ruined one two many threads