I started a thread about how much I hate the word Cum and it got deleted

[Tetsuo]

I don't know why.

It was quite an interesting discussion.

I maintain that I hate the word cum and I'm not sure when 'come' to orgasm, to arrive, to reach one's sexual destination got bastardised to the really base and crude word cum, it's redolent of grubby blokes, it's seedy, it's horrible.

Anyhoo, I'm not sure why I was deleted, I think maybe one poster thought I was a seedy bloke that wanted women to discuss that word.

Promise I'm not!

It was an interesting discussion up to the point of deletion.

Also pronounced identically

I also loathe the spelling ‘cum.’ It’s moronic, such an ugly word for a wondrous occurrence.

Hmmmm

Struggling to think of any accent where sum and hum are not pronounced the same as some

What region are you from OP?

To you maybe.

Some is elongated, sum is truncated.

/sʌm/ (some)
/sʌm/ (sum)

Standard southern English (Cambridge Phonetic Dictionary)

/sum/ some
/sum/ sum

Variant pronunciation of the same short vowel sound in both words.

Cum, sum, hum, come, some all rhyme to me.

come pronounced with an ahm sound would be nearer calm But there’s no a or h in it so I wouldn’t pronounce it like that. Do you say cahm ?

You literally did say it was 5 years ago, so I most certainly am not the tool here.

Ive copied and pasted it because you obviously are having some cognitive dysfunction.

“I don't think it came from text brevity (says the woman that would rather spend cash than use abbreviations) I don't recall it being used in the 90s. It really is very recent. Last five years I think.”

so … you were saying?

It seems that it is only you who speaks like this. All the pronunciation guides disagree.

It must happen when the words come out your anus rather than your mouth.

Cum and Come are definitely pronounced the same in this sense.

It's still weird to me to make a whole thread to keep using a word you hate

And there's nothing wrong with fanfic. It's not seedy or childish or anything. So shhhh

Don’t speak about those 5 year old Anglo Saxon words like that 😂

😂👏👏👏

Really?

Do you say;

'I will give you some apples'

And

'What is the sum of all the apples added together?'

The same? I don't think you do. Sum is a much more truncated pronunciation, even if you're not aware of the subtle difference, I guarantee you do.

Yes...

I meant it usurped the previous term then. Not it was invented than.

Are you really telling a randomer on the internet that they do not know how they themselves speak; but you (who has presumably never heard them speak before) does? Especially when you are suggesting they they use the incorrect pronunciation that only you seem to use?

I think you have had enough internet today.

I genuinely would and I have never heard anyone say them differently.

Well the words that you wrote don’t mean that do they?

Can we get back to the starting topic? Which was is it appropriate to SPELL reaching orgasm as come or cum rather than how we pronounce Latin and Latin-derived place names in different accents?

That's the weak form of "some" used in quickly spoken connected speech. In that example (and others such as "that" when it's a relative pronoun, "have" when it's ab auxiliary,etc) then yes, the short vowel changes to a schwa.

That's a specific feature of specific types of connected speech though and doesn't fall under the "standard" pronunciation of the single unit.

As a single word (as you've this far been using it) the pronunciation is the same.

Sum and some are homophones

Yes, I would pronounce some and sum the same, as has been mentioned by many on this thread and as has been agreed by the posters sharing the dictionary pronunciation guide. I'm from the southeast of England. I'm intrigued as to what accent has a difference in pronunciation.

I'll ask again - what region are you/is your accent from?

I'm beginning to wonder if it has lots of bridges...

I think we're having our plonkers pulled tbh.

That's "plonker" pronounced "platypus" I expect.

Apparently “northern” but most certainly not north of the border because we speak properly using the same pronunciation at the dictionary.

I'm not that bothered.

I maintain that I hate to see, in written language, the word cum.

How one chooses to pronounce the word is neither here nor there, it looks crude, it is crude, it's a crude and unpleasant word, I find it demeaning. I absolutely think it's pornified language. It debases something that's good.

So yeah, we can argue about pronunciation, accents and whatnot.

But we're missing the actual issue.

And for the record.

I'm from Yorkshire.