I started a thread about how much I hate the word Cum and it got deleted

[Tetsuo]

I don't know why.

It was quite an interesting discussion.

I maintain that I hate the word cum and I'm not sure when 'come' to orgasm, to arrive, to reach one's sexual destination got bastardised to the really base and crude word cum, it's redolent of grubby blokes, it's seedy, it's horrible.

Anyhoo, I'm not sure why I was deleted, I think maybe one poster thought I was a seedy bloke that wanted women to discuss that word.

Promise I'm not!

It was an interesting discussion up to the point of deletion.

I think it’s even worse when people refer to it as ‘come’ instead of ‘cum’

FWIW I completely agree with you OP: I don't mind swearing and I don't mind vulgar but this word is so grubby and horrible.

I don't think it's that recent. I'm sure it was used in the instructions for the first box of condoms that I bought back in the 90s. I'd never seen it written that way before so it stuck in my mind.

Bit yes, I agree it's 🤢

''Grotty'' is a perfect word to describe it. It makes me think of that certain horrible smell ...

I live in a 'somewhere' cum 'somewhere' village as well <waves at others>

Could the move from come to cum be down to text speak? When we were being charged per letter a lot of words got routinely shortened? Not that i was routinely texting about coming!(i don't think)

Ya! Grotty and grubby are perfect descriptors.

I don't think it came from text brevity (says the woman that would rather spend cash than use abbreviations) I don't recall it being used in the 90s. It really is very recent. Last five years I think.

It's proper grim

I hate the word too. The sex topic is the worst topic for using it.

I prefer "one's arriving".

It?

When you say 'it' are you referring to the substance of the male ejaculate? So semen?

Or are you referring to the act of orgasm?

This is where it gets a bit fuzzy.

To come, I I have always understood, is to achieve orgasm.

Cum is now used as both the word meaning to orgasm but also the word for semen.

I dunno, it's almost as though porn has hijacked language and male satisfaction is now both the verb and the noun.

Yep I agree it’s a grubby blokes word. I also hate ‘pussy.’ 😤

😂

''One is arriving imminently - don't fucking stop!!''

😆

The link I posted last night said it was first recorded I the sense of orgasm in 1973. That would suggest it was in use before then.

Obviously Latin goes back more than a couple of thousand years.
<remembers Latin A-level>

Actually, though the Latin version means "with" and is nothing to do with the orgasm sense, which is derived from "cometheir the sense of to arrive, the Romans did write a lot about sex when they were minded. (Yes, Catullus, I'm looking at you.)

"Cum" in Latin is pronounced very differently, it doesn't sound like a remotely similar word despite the same spelling. Agree re incorrect spelling in the sexual context. The "cum" spelling in that context is indeed bastardised and vulgar.

Indeed, the Latin and Welsh Cum/Cwm are pronounced with an almost invisible vowel. So Cm.

The vowel sound in cum is very present and very vulgar!

It was in use when I was a teen in the 90s, it's really not a new thing

Definitely not that recently! It was absolutely 'cum' when I was at secondary school 2001-5. I have always felt squeamish about it as a word, like moist, so it is very clear in my mind...

Is it text speak?

It's odd how the way something is spelled can make such a difference. Tip for men: if you want to turn women right off, then spell it "cum".

😂 actually crying.

Oh dear, I’d pronounce them the same. Can’t think how they’d be different

That's also the language of pornography - American. We don't have to use this language. It's up to us. We don't have to slavishly copy everything. We can shape and form language too. Why don't we? That Sky television presenter who chose to use it in a broadcast didn't have to. There were alternatives available to her.

I don't think it was @GinBlossom94. In fact, I'd put money on it not being regular vernacular in the 90s.

Yes, maybe, 'I would like to come on you'

Ergo, 'It would be most enjoyable to have an orgasm on your body'.

But not;

'I would like to cum on you'

Ergo, 'Your body is a canvas for my spunk'

@CormorantStrikesBack pronounced the same just written differently!

In the 70s and 80s (at least in my neck of the woods) it was definitely not "come".

The only people using it tended to be 13 year old boys, mind.

I wouldn't ever think of it as the language of porn, but rather as the language of people who think they're being edgy and shocking.