To think he’s choosing to be homeless and it’s right that he doesn’t get a housing association property?

[Casparr]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68033982

Man works 50hrs a week. At minimum wage that’s 27k and about £1900 take-home each month. He sleeps at friends’ houses or his ex-partner’s, presumably for free. Why can’t he just get a room in a house share (under £600 a month in Glasgow) and save up a deposit for a flat?

Wow??? Actual fucking Wow????
What have I just read there???
OP give your head a wobble.
WOW??

Where did I suggest that? I didn't say anything remotely like that so I'm not sure where you've plucked that from. I said that he shouldn't be at the very bottom of the pile just because he's working.

Posted by a ex housing officer on another thread

Criteria can also change. I know of one HA that found they had insufficient demand for their over-65s housing (flats and bungalows) while they were struggling to provide accommodation for younger single adults with alcohol and drug addictions and ex-offenders. They changed the criteria to "solve" the problem. It was an absolute disaster for the elderly tenants

Not just "nice" young adults either, alcoholics, drug addicts and ex-offenders, some straight from prison

This. I don't understand why council tenants are not means tested every 3 years and made to move on if they no longer need a council property. Certainly the rules where a property can pass onto a relative seems wrong to me (not sure if that's still the case).

@Casparr Glasgow has "such an influx of refugees" because it is an Asylum Dispersal Area. Government policy.

And I am glad to say that they are welcomed by local people:

https://www.refuweegee.co.uk/

A PP said that Glasgow’s the place where the majority of Scotland’s share of refugees have been sent to be housed. It makes logical sense that places with shorter waiting lists would receive more refugees (whether this is actually policy I have no idea).

Don’t see what’s controversial about that?

@Macaroni46 The demolition and gentrification is more than playing its part Every time i see posts like yours i assume the poster is benefitting from these things in some way.

Well the downside of that is clearly that young men like the one in the article can no longer easily access social housing.

Personally I think that refugees should be prioritised over working single men, but you can see from this thread that not everyone does.

@Macaroni46 people are not going to spend money on decorating a place if they are going to be made to move in a couple of years

Perhaps this relative availability of social housing is exactly why Glasgow’s had such an influx of refugees?

Yes. In the past Glasgow has had a very high availability of social housing. At one point over 50% of the rented sector.

This was, indeed, the rational for the home office "dispensing" asylum seekers to Glasgow from 2014 onwards.

This was controversial at the time because most refugees prefer to live close to their own ethnic/national communities and to the services that they need. (Be that as general as a Halal butcher or as specialist as counsellors for victims of torture).
And Glasgow at the time (while not by any means a monoculture) was not quite so racially mixed as some of the places asylum seekers were being dispersed from.

Nonetheless I would consider it a success. People have mostly integrated well with each other and the worst fears of racial tensions have not come to pass.

Since then the housing situation has deteriorated badly. Due to steady demolition of social housing by the largest housing association, the Wheatley Group (previously GHA).

Well I also feel sorry for the man in the article. Housing is a difficult issue to solve.

Thanks. This context makes the article make sense!

The fact that they are now called the Wheatley Group and have taken the words "housing association" out of their name entirely tells you all you need to know

Costs wise it doesn't break down what he has to pay. He should be paying CSM on that. Depending on where he is staying, there are transport costs, and you'd hope he's chipping in with the gas/ electric wherever he's staying. Food costs, since he doesn't have a base, would be takeaway type food for lunch and I'd assume dinner is provided- but also he very may well not want to eat a chippie every night for his tea. Without the article (invasively) going into his costs breakdown, there is no way to know. I'd imagine on a minimum wage, and a need to stay near his low paid job, the options aren't great. And if he has no money, he can't move elsewhere to secure accomodation as won't have the deposit.

He's choosing not to rent in the hope he'll get housed. Imagine if every single working person did that.

Actually, the Home Office is currently in the process "batch processing" a big old backlog of asylum cases so it's expected that around 2,000 newly minted refugees will soon be in a position to make applications for housing in Glasgow. And a similar number will be destitute and homeless having been knocked back.

In a city where the largest housing association has been steadily demolishing housing for a decade.

The council have declared a "housing emergency"

Christ this thread is depressing.

I'm going to be homeless in the next few months as my landlord is selling up. I was widowed two years ago, have struggled to keep my business afloat leaving me in 10k worth of debt. I'm currently trying to liquidate but am also trying to get my elderly parents sorted out as they have both hit massive crises this week and I'm an only child.

I'm 55 and my only source of comfort is my cat which I may have to give up. My credit rating is shot, I have no one to be a guarantor. I am absolutely fucked as rents in my affluent South coast town are pretty much in the London bracket. You can't even view with an agent down here unless you pass the credit check first.

I've spent my life having my career prospects regularly interrupted by urgent caring responsibilities. Getting a full time job right now is unfeasible as I have to get rid of pretty much all of my possessions because if I'm lucky I might get temporary accommodation, plus with the dire state of care for the elderly, it looks like I'll be up to my neck in dementia and heart problems with my poor parents for the next few years.

I was hoping to find a way to relocate to a cheaper area, but apparently Universe says no.

So this chap absolutely has my sympathy. As they say, don't judge another till you've walked in their shoes.

@MistressoftheDarkSide Im really sorry to hear that I remember you from some of the Covid restrictions threads,

@MistressoftheDarkSide that sounds awful, I'm so sorry 😞

Thank you @JenniferBooth x

Looking back those days seem like a long forgotten dream.

@MistressoftheDarkSide sorry if this isnt much help but have to tried to get help for your parents. You cant do it all

And thank you @icantusethat x

The fact that they are now called the Wheatley Group and have taken the words "housing association" out of their name entirely tells you all you need to know

It fucks me off that they named themselves after John Wheatley, a socialist politician who must be rolling in his grave.

Christ. Cheeky fuckers!

Wow you're really working hard to be offensive. Gross.