To think he’s choosing to be homeless and it’s right that he doesn’t get a housing association property?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-68033982

Man works 50hrs a week. At minimum wage that’s 27k and about £1900 take-home each month. He sleeps at friends’ houses or his ex-partner’s, presumably for free. Why can’t he just get a room in a house share (under £600 a month in Glasgow) and save up a deposit for a flat?

Hang on, he’s earning a minimum of 25k if he’s truly working those hours (too many IMO but that’s a different matter), Glasgow housing is pretty cheap all things considered. He’s not paying any rent or bills so why can’t he save up the deposit? This flat for example looks within budget and reasonably nice

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/133721012#/?channel=RES_LET

Nope, not benefitting at all. I earn about the same as the man in the article and pay my own way entirely.
However, I stand by what I said. Too much council housing is tied up by tenants who are living there for decades when they don't need to.

That’s not Glasgow it’s bothwell/blantyre a 20 min drive and terrible nighttime transport for
work if you work in the city centre.

so much misinformation on this thread. I saw someone mention you could walk into a HA and be housed within days 12 years ago. That is not and never has been the case.
20 years ago my female friend had to live in dodgy homeless accommodation over 12 months before getting a LHA flat. She was a teen escaping racist abuse so at the time
top of the list! 30 years ago my then boyfriend also in a homeless accommodation had to wait 18 months.

These times are considerably better than now but it has never been days. It’s barely been under a year.

OP have you ever found yourself unhoused without family or friends options ? I feel unless you’ve been there you can’t really judge and you really are judging in complete ignorance here.

Well there at 40 odd flats for rent under £600 a month and there will be many many more house shares. So doesn’t have to be that one, but he should be able to rent something rather than be homeless shouldn’t he? I totally understand the economy/housing is crap in general in the U.K. but Glasgow isn’t the worst affected by any means. We all have to support ourselves at the end of the day, until such a time we can get the Tories out and vote in a government who has the appetite to change things. But throwing yourself on the mercy of public services and social housing when you do have other options doesn’t help, in fact it makes it all worse.

Have you read the comments from people who know what’s necessary to rent and how quickly properties go when they’re up for rent or are you basing your knowledge on rentals in the 90s and early 00s - times have changed drastically in the past four years.

I don’t disagree that there is a severe housing shortage in Scotland. But in fact over the last 6 months many air BnB have been converted to long term rents.

And yes of course deposits are required - that’s the law throughout the UK and most of Europe. Otherwise there would be no private rented properties at all and the government would have to find billions to build enough social rented properties and then devise a whole new system to house students, short term workers , new households, young people leaving home etc .

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia in many countries you cannot buy unless you have been resident for quite a lot of years abd that doesn't include buying by hastily arranged 'companies' - you cannot buy just to let it sit there or 'let out' - half the problems in this country are because we have become like the Wild West when it comes to being allowed to buy into UK assets- with minimal conditions or checks

Hold on - so which is it? Air BnBs are being converted to long-term lets, yet landlords are also moving to turn long-term lets into Air BnBs due to new legislation or selling up entirely? I know everything is a Paradox but surely this is extremely contradictory?

Are the rules re housing refugees different in Scotland from those in England?

In England, refugees only get the same priority as any other homeless person else, ie only those with children, disabilities or who are especially vulnerable are entitled to be housed under homelessness rules.

The Numbers of Serviced accommodation premises AND long term lets have both reduced, due to government policy.

Anecdotally, some SA providers have changed to PRS. But it’s only overall numbers that are documented, no one tracks what happens to each individual property then collates it all .

I didn’t say that that long term lets are being turned into serviced accommodation, that was another poster.

The Scottish Government ( in coalition with theGreens ) are trying very hard to piss off landlords. Which is pretty stupid when

you have a housing crisis
they house a fifth of the population
you have 60 refugees arriving every Monday
housing waiting lists are very long
landlords always have other options - the housing market is still booming in most of Scotland

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@LakieLady

Those assessed as homeless have a right to accommodation, unlike in the rest of the UK

https://www.gov.scot/policies/homelessness/homelessness-prevention/#:~:text=All%20those%20assessed%20as,another%20as%20soon%20as%20possible.

I don't get how you could know someone's full finances just from reading a news article? If only that worked for our politicians 😂they'd certainly behave more.

That property has now been removed

also, Glasgow is a pretty big place: he would want to live near his work and daughter. If he relies on public transport then this flat may be a complete no go

I rent out a 3 bed/2 bathroom flat in a new build near the city centre for £875 so……

You cant always live near or conveniently for family/work

My partner has a horrendous commute, we just couldnt get a job for him near where we live and couldnt afford to live nearer

Why haven't people paid a penny though? More than likely because they have a disability or health condition otherwise they'd be made to work.
I'm not saying all of them but probably the majority.

And would you rent to a single bloke earning minimum wage with no references or guarantor?

So an anti immigration ranter then? Hmm. Nope, no sympathy. Get a cheap rent and save for better

Where does it say he hasn’t got a reference? He’s working some presumably can get a work ref.
he insinuates his main issue is lack of deposit…..earning that much, with his lack of outgoings…..why can’t he save?

You need references from a landlord. And he needs to be able to pass a credit check too.

You don’t need any of these things. It’s entirely down to the landlord to decide what they ask for.
I’ve taken tenants without LL before. It’s very much on a case by case basis.

Agents have very tight criteria. Deposit, credit check and guarantor as a minimum. In addition to a landlord’s reference.

because being homeless is extremely expensive 🙄

How? In his case I mean….. he has said he is staying on a friends sofa, how is that expensive?

He may be paying to keep his belongings in storage and for child support. Or for his ex's accommodation. There are all sorts of outgoings that he might have. He may be paying towards the utilities he uses at the friends' houses he stays at and obviously he still has to pay for food and transport etc.