To think there shouldn't be measles outbreaks?

[fatandhappy47]

Surely we shouldn't be having an issue with measles?
Had an email from school (secondary) 'reminding' us to keep kids off with measles, which got me thinking

All my kids band my friends kids of the same age had their MMR (however my youngest did get measles before this)

So why is it an issue in secondary schools of all places? Are people just not vaccinating their kids?

Unvaccinated adults are able to go to the GP to have the MMR if they haven’t been vaccinated previously. I’m too old to have had the MMR - when I was a child it was just a single dose of the measles vaccine where I lived, and I remember a number of friends having both measles and mumps. I mentioned this to my GP and I was able to have two doses of the MMR as an adult.

I think in the future we’ll look at chickenpox the same way, which can also be very serious for some. I paid to vaccinate my DC, but other countries vaccinate against it as standard and I hope we’ll go the same way.

@OdeToBarney I think at one point there was only 1 MMR given and then it was found that a 2nd dose boosted protection.

My brother was born in 1984 and I don't know whether he just had 1 dose or whether he had none but he had mumps as a teenager and ended up deaf in 1 ear through it.

@duckpancakes it's based on probability. Cases are rising, so who knows if the need has changed?

I'm not saying that but it seems as soon as a kid gets measles most of people are shouting about " they should've been vaccinated, mine were" Go back on this thread and look lol. So if it had been today I had the measles I'm sure my mother would be crucified online " for being antivax" despite the fact I had the vaccine. My brothers also had it and didn't catch measles from me but it obviously doesn't work for everyone

My eldest daughter had the MMR but when pregnant with her eldest a blood test showed she had no rubella immunity. Given another MMR after birth. 2nd pregnancy no rubella immunity again

No but they can't then complain about the measles outbreak. If they can't get vaccinated or have been vaccinated then fine. People who just choose not to get their child vaccinated for no good reason have to live with their decision.

Even if you aren't reading the replies why don't you just Google and find out exactly why it's happening. There's no need to be ignorant on this when it's been all over the news this week I know you said you don't do news, not knowing stuff can be a consequence

They'll let people know if they need to do anything different. Those Chris whitty scientists what ever that groups called. They'll be on it.

what you are describing, essentially vaccination failure, is very rare

@duckpancakes you're making yourself sound a right eejit tbh

You do realise that in your mother's day there were large amounts of children who either died from measles or were left with lifelong disabilities?

Our children are fully vaccinated however DS2 still got measles in around 2001 when he was 4. He was very unwell, which wasn’t that unusual for him at the time, but none of the doctors at our surgery knew what his rash was. One afternoon the GP who was close to retiring saw him and straight away recognised it as measles. He’d been in hospital with his asthma a week or two before, so we don’t know if he caught it from there or the community but it wasn’t from school we don’t think.

DS1 got whooping cough when he was almost 18 when there was an outbreak of that, too. Our doctor told me that the whooping cough vaccine wears off, which was news to me.

I’m 53 and know i definitely wasn’t vaccinated against measles and I’ve had it twice. The second time I got it my mum caught it too and it made her incredibly unwell. My Nan had to move in to look after us so my dad could still go to work because my mum was in bed for a week or more. It’s a horrible disease that people underestimate.

If that’s your “argument” then you are doing a fantastic example of demonstrating the flawed logic of many anti vaxxers.

you only have to read the posts on here from people who have had first hand experience of measles to see how dangerous it is. Until now we have been lucky not to see the impact much because we have had vaccination levels high enough to prevent community transmission happening much. The decline in vaccination is leading to an increase in community transmission and the risks of that are massive both short term and long term for those infected.

Not read thread but a question I have is...

Have all those getting measles definitely not been vaccinated? I wonder if vaccine is somehow not as effective now.
My have been vaccinated but not sure if this means they are still protected

There's that, but I think also some of the impact is a bit more subtle. Just a slow erosion of trust, often in people much less radicalised than this.

Then there's also people who were maybe moderately mistrustful before but it hadn't really translated to vaccines. They may have been exposed to a lot more the covid vax killed all these people stuff over the last few years. It's invariably all over twitter every time someone dies young, people are ghouls. Or been alarmed by some of the more poorly judged policies like care worker vaccine requirements and started thinking about whether they always trust the state to make sensible decisions. So even getting slightly more worried is the thing that tips the decision in a way that it didn't previously, if that makes sense.

They don't understand anything. Collectively they have the critical thinking skills of a fish finger.

Let me correct your post.

Previous Shameless badly informed anti vaxxer here, who now understands a bit better.

Measles can be a very serious illness and can be a matter of life or death, and result in long term damage to the body . In my Mother’s Day if a child had measles all the other kids would be thrown out to play with them in the hopes of catching it, and some who caught it became seriously ill and even live with the effects nowadays. Because, I'm wrongly assuming measles is like chicken pox (which you can also now vaccinate against 🤔) I'm also wrongly assuming that measles is normally a none issue.

I think vaccines have been so successful that people ironically don’t see the need for them as they don’t properly realise what it’d be like without them.

Also, some said Wakefield is irrelevant now but he still gets big audiences in the USA and continues to spread misinformation.

When I see 'none issue' I immediately know to ignore whatever that poster is saying.

Survivor bias.

The covid vaccine is to blame. A vaccine that didn't work and made you sick. So people now question other vaccines

I was born in 84 and had one dose when I was pre school age and then when I was in secondary school we were all offered a second dose.

my sister was born in 87 and I’m pretty she she had two doses pre school age.

I know intelligent people who also sell 'chemical free cleaning' products. 🙄

(Sorry, I will stop now).

See this is what makes me angry Assuming all kids with measles have idiots as parents

That's misinformation.
Anti-vaxxers also existed pre-Covid.