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He wants me to kick my mum out

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Areyouhavingabubble2 · 19/01/2024 08:50

My elderly mother lives with me in my home (and has for the past 8 years) she does do some cooking and cleaning to help out. It’s my home, I own it and pay all the expenses.

I have 3 school age kids who live at home with me and my mother.

My partner moved into my home a year ago, knowing the full situation.
He has been permanently irritated by her since he moved in. He perceives her habits as trying to annoy him and go against his wishes. She just behaves as she normally does. He is now refusing to eat anything she cooks and pretty much ignoring her.

He says he didn’t realise that she would have an equal say in the household and thinks it should be just me and him controlling the home and everything else.

He now says I should ask my mother to move out as she is too painful to live with and interfering in our lives. He says we have no privacy, which is reasonably true. We do however have a babysitter on hand if we wanted to go out for alone time, which he doesn’t really ever want to do.

I don’t think it makes sense to kick her out when this is my home. It would be different if me and him got married or bought/ rented somewhere together and helped set my mother up somewhere nice. He wants her gone and now and is constantly moaning about her.

Am I being unreasonable to expect the living situation to stay as it is and he just get used to it?

OP posts:
Runnerinthenight · 19/01/2024 16:40

Areyouhavingabubble2 · 19/01/2024 12:02

I have been trying to manage the situation by acting as the go between and being hopeful that it can work and we can all learn to get along.
I realise now that it’s not going to happen and he’s made me feel like I’m being unreasonable not to kick her out and that by not doing it I’m a bad girlfriend.
Now I see rationally that this isn’t the case and wanted to have some clarity from others that I’m sane and my decision not to kick my mum out is normal behaviour. If he doesn’t like it he should leave, not my mum.

Edited

How is he with your children? I'd bet my last dollar - if your mum moved out, they'd be next!

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/01/2024 16:44

AcrossthePond55 · 19/01/2024 16:11

Let me guess. Total basic household expenses (not including kids' expenses) divided by 6 (total in household). So he's probably paying his 'pro rata' share (1/6) of rent/mortgage, utilities, and possibly food and not one penny piece more. He probably also pays 'pro rata' for takeaways, activities, holidays, etc. And I'm sure he counts every penny. So unattractive. I'm not saying he should 'support' OP's other family members, but a little generosity never goes amiss.

This man has controlling cocklodger written in indelible ink right across his forehead.

This man has controlling cocklodger written in indelible ink right across his forehead.

And right through him from head to toe like a stick of Blackpool rock.

Montegufoni2017 · 19/01/2024 16:45

Please don’t let him treat your Mum like this any longer. That makes me feel so sad for her.
For 8 years she has lived with her daughter and children, it’s her home and then all of a sudden daughter’s boyfriend moves in and is so vile that he ignores her.
how have you allowed him to get away with this for so long? He sounds nasty, childish, selfish and controlling. Get him out now, you’ll have the same from him in a few years about your children.

FUBAR77 · 19/01/2024 16:45

AliceThruTheDoor · 19/01/2024 12:05

He is a vile man and probably controlling and this was his long term plan.

He knew the situation when he moved in.

You are doing a truly great thing for your mother - who will always be your mother.

I write as some who's mother has died. I can tell you if you ask your mother to leave, you will regret it for the rest of your life and on her death it will be like a dead weight around your already broken heart.

This man doesn't sound like he thinks much of you, has much humanity in him or to be blunt , probably won't be in your life for very long in the overall scheme. Your mum will ALWAYS be your mother and you only get one of those.

I'd give anything to have my mother back and living with me and fuck any deadbeat man who interferes with you.

@AliceThruTheDoor - just quoting as I can’t ‘thanks’ it 1000 times over 👏 I also lost my Mum recently and it’s ridiculous the things that you suddenly feel guilt over.

He’s a grade A Twat OP, chuck it out…

Emotionalsupportviper · 19/01/2024 16:47

Longdarkcloud · 19/01/2024 16:21

Your poor mother must be feeling very insecure and unhappy at the moment. It’s a blessing she can at least have her own friends round to visit but no doubt she’s sensed his impatience with this.
There can never be a happy outcome to this relationship, OP, even if you mum took herself off tomorrow, because she is t the problem and his attitudes are.
Remember most controlling narcissists initiate relationships masking their negative sides and it’s when they feel secure in the relationship that they reveal their true colours.
Good luck

There can never be a happy outcome to this relationship, OP, even if you mum took herself off tomorrow, because she is t the problem and his attitudes are.

THIS. ⬆

WhisperGold · 19/01/2024 16:49

If he doesn't like it he should leave?
No, you should kick him out cos he's an arsehole.

wellhello24 · 19/01/2024 16:50

Everanewbie · 19/01/2024 09:04

I’m a bit torn here. I mean, he knew the score when he moved in and he sounds pretty mean, ungrateful and petulant. That said, I’m sure we’ve all committed to something in the past that we thought we could manage but it turned out so much harder than we envisaged.

I’m not sure there are all that many men that would accept this situation long term and certainly if the roles were reversed there would be more sympathy for the woman.

I think you need to understand and validate his feelings (often it’s a source of conflict in couples where each thinks their parent can do no wrong while their in-laws can do no right) but make it clear that you made it clear it was non negotiable.

This. He’s being disrespectful towards her & you which is not ok but I do understand the irritation. Not many can tolerate living with an in-law- you need privacy and as a couple it’s your nest. That being said he knew this beforehand & was too short sighted to see this would of course become a problem

Dweetfidilove · 19/01/2024 16:50

I don’t understand why people are questioning why the OP’s mom lives with her. That has no bearing on this man moving in and deciding she needs to go.

It may also not be normal for some people to live with a parent, but it’s pretty normal for many others.

He's tried, it doesn’t work for him, so now he needs to get gone. Not evict those who were there before him, and not from a house he doesn’t own and barely contributes to.

cerisepanther73 · 19/01/2024 16:51

@Areyouhavingabubble2

There is two words that will be effective for hopefully 🙏 your soon to be ex ,

Tell your boyfriend

To fxck off

Adnil19 · 19/01/2024 16:51

Would he kick his own mother out! What about your kids when he gets irritated with them next. Kick him to the kirb as it seems he hasn't a care but for himself

LookItsMeAgain · 19/01/2024 16:54

@Areyouhavingabubble2 - What would you type to a MNetter if they posted something like you did?

Think of the situation as if you're not actually the person in it and work out what you would advise that person to do.

Would you suggest that she kick her partner out?
Would you suggest that she kick her mother out?

Try to think of the situation as if it was someone else living through it and see if you can come to a decision on what you'd suggest to that person.

I'd imagine you'd recommend that the person caught up in this situation should have a conversation with her partner and basically say that they had X number of weeks to get out and find somewhere else to live.

I cannot see how you would suggest anything else to that person so then use that advice for yourself and have that conversation. If your partner wants to leave sooner, you will agree to keep their boxed belongings for 1 month maximum and then you'll throw it out if they haven't already collected it.

Toomuch2019 · 19/01/2024 16:54

Honestly, I'd just get rid now-of him, not your mother.

He sounds line a complete di*k with how he's acting towards your poor mum.

Dweetfidilove · 19/01/2024 16:54

AcrossthePond55 · 19/01/2024 16:11

Let me guess. Total basic household expenses (not including kids' expenses) divided by 6 (total in household). So he's probably paying his 'pro rata' share (1/6) of rent/mortgage, utilities, and possibly food and not one penny piece more. He probably also pays 'pro rata' for takeaways, activities, holidays, etc. And I'm sure he counts every penny. So unattractive. I'm not saying he should 'support' OP's other family members, but a little generosity never goes amiss.

This man has controlling cocklodger written in indelible ink right across his forehead.

Sounds about right. I couldn’t even contemplate being with this kind of person, let alone allowing him to be disrespectful to anyone under my roof 😔

cerisepanther73 · 19/01/2024 16:55

Exactly @Dweetfidilove 💯 per cent agree with your post ...

Your hit the nail 💅 on the head..
Good post .!

CeeCeeBloom · 19/01/2024 16:57

So he's a controlling cocklodger who unfortunately saw you coming. You pay for everything? And he's demanding your mum be thrown out? What an absolutely cheeky bastard he is!

OP you need to throw him out, break up with him and do it tonight! Who cares whether he has a place to go or not. He's starting with your mum, next it'll be your kids who are "irritating" him.

GothConversionTherapy · 19/01/2024 16:58

AcrossthePond55 · 19/01/2024 16:11

Let me guess. Total basic household expenses (not including kids' expenses) divided by 6 (total in household). So he's probably paying his 'pro rata' share (1/6) of rent/mortgage, utilities, and possibly food and not one penny piece more. He probably also pays 'pro rata' for takeaways, activities, holidays, etc. And I'm sure he counts every penny. So unattractive. I'm not saying he should 'support' OP's other family members, but a little generosity never goes amiss.

This man has controlling cocklodger written in indelible ink right across his forehead.

I would be absolutely shocked if he paid that much.

Gummybear23 · 19/01/2024 17:06

Put your mom your children and yourself first.

This man will destroy your life.

Boot him out and thank your blessings.

Yolo12345 · 19/01/2024 17:07

Your poor Mum. Can't believe you are putting up with him. How f*ing dare he?!?!

Gummybear23 · 19/01/2024 17:07

Who cares whether he has a place to go?
That is his choice.
Your mom has a home. THAT IS IMPORTANT

Frances0911 · 19/01/2024 17:11

Don't even think about kicking your mother out, how cruel would that be? Your partner knew the situation when he moved in, so if he can't hack it, he should go.

EverleighMay · 19/01/2024 17:12

It may be the place he is currently living but it's your home.

What happens once Mum is kicked out, are the kids next?

Get rid.

NorthernSturdyGirl · 19/01/2024 17:16

Ah bless you, you are sadly in a position where you have to choose. This is no-one elses decision as its your house and your family.

So lets look at your family. I haven't seen how your mum came to live with you, but that does have a slight bearing on it. However a man entered your very well established life, being you, mum and kids and presumably it worked well, on the whole. You start seeing a guy, he meets said mum and kids and knows what he is getting into but in fairness the reality is sometimes different to expectation. When living apart you do put on a front, your best behaviour and that cloak usually disappears when you live together. I may be wrong but its your home, he pays his way but does nothing else? When he pays his way does he just pay 1/6 of the expenses, cos if he wanted to seriously be part of this family as opposed to a lodger, he should be paying at least a third if not half of the expenses, as surely if he wants to be the man of the house, he needs to take a modern mans responsibilities? That includes not just paying his way, but taking his share of financial responsibility for the family and maintenance, cleaning of the home and childcare. Your mum is part of that family by birth, he can't make demands of this nature as, lets face it, he is a lodger with benefits, not really a family member as a family member wouldn't oppress the family in this way. However, be honest, how easy is your mum to live with, is there room to accommodate both by some adjustment by each of them? If the answer is your mum is good, he had no right to make this demand, no right to be joint decision maker as he does not accept half responsibility. He wants his cake and to eat it.

Personally speaking, I don't think he has any decision to make, its not his choice, its yours. He has given you an ultimatum and if you do not throw your mum out, this relationship is downhill from now on in. That's reality. You have no option as he has no right to make this ultimatum so he needs to go, not your mum.

At some point in your life a man may come along and he may take a guiding and fair share in your parenting and financial role and he may love mum but at some point (sorry don't know her age) she may need to leave, but thats a joint decision not bullying tactics which is your current partners mode - big difference!

If there is no room for a liveable compromise, YOU, need to tell him to go, as you can't inflict the ensuing paddy on your family when he realises mum is going nowhere.

To be honest, the fact that he has put you in this situation, speaks volumes about him, and its not a good look.

You knew what the answer was, you just needed validation, you have pages of it here, so go do what you have to! Its going to be tough but you know what needs to be done!

Childcarereconfirm · 19/01/2024 17:18

Get him out OP! What a disrespectful way to act towards your poor mum.

TheGander · 19/01/2024 17:19

Just think what behaviour you’d be mirroring to your children by putting your boyfriend above your mother’s security in her late years. If your mum was a spiteful controlling woman and your boyfriend a Saint, it would be different, but this isn’t the situation here.

CoffeeMama89 · 19/01/2024 17:19

Does he have any good quality or is he just a massive arse all the time. Get him out of YOUR home. Your mother is elderly and doesn’t deserve his poor treatment.

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