ashley cains new baby name so disrepecful!

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my heart dropped for Saf tonight. AIBU to be absolutely raging for a stranger at the level of disrespect???!!

His daughter died nearly 3 years ago. He hasn’t ’moved on quickly’.

I think it was 2 years ago. Plus 9 months so not long after.

Oh stop. It’s not ‘quickly’. The baby would have been conceived 2 years after the loss of his daughter. That’s not moving on quickly.

It is a very similar name, he has a perfect right to do so but it will be hurtful for Safiyya, in addition to the child's mother being an ex friend of hers.

9 pages of shite. Incredible.

Propa chav thread innit

Safiyya 😂

I have read alot of comments on here from people who think theres nothing wrong with the situation you are describing but I have followed Ashley and Safiyas stories for a while now and I agree with you OP that I do think hes being incredibly disrespectful to Safiya under the circumstances.

For anyone that wouldnt know the full story, Ashley and Safiya remained friends after splitting and worked together on the charity they both set up as a tribute to their daughter. It was also said that Ashley had asked Safiya to have another baby with him, only for him to go on to impregnate another woman shortly after this. So from this basis i think hes behaving like a complete dick. What a slap in the face to Safiya and to their daughters memory. He didnt need to have chosen that particular name it feels very showy and attention seeking. His two children should be kept separately in that sense and hes trying to make it all the same when hes starting a new family with a completely different person! Harsh!

I'm more concerned about where all the money they raised went and the dodginess surrounding that

What happened with the money?

This. He is dodgy as fuck.

And those saying two years is plenty of time and it’s nothing to do with Safiyya have obviously never lost a child.

They received 1.5 million on a go fund me page to get treatment for their daughter. They said if they didn't get the treatment they'd pass it on to other families who needed it.

They sadly ended up not needing the money. They then have a very extravagant funeral, both are suddenly kitted out in designer gear all the time, expensive watches etc and neither appeared to be working and they didn't have this much cash to splash before.

They set up their foundation but no sign of the money. Their charity seems to do things like giving out rubber charity bracelets in hospitals and sharing Instagram stories about other sick childrens fundraisers but not actually donating to them. Several families of sick children have been ignored or rejected by them when asking for financial help.

I believe they've released their accounts and they spent 400K on marketing and 600K is unaccounted for.

I know people are not fans of the website Tattle but it's very eye opening with Ashley Cain!

@MySugarBabyLove

... incidentally, in Victorian times when infant mortality was high, it was common for a baby to be given the same name as the most recently deceased child.

I was going to make the same point. My DW's grandmother had the same name as her deceased elder sister.

I think he's entitled to move on, I think 2 years is reasonable (not that it matters what any of us think is reasonable), it's absolutely understandable that Saf is hurting too, and I am a bereaved parent, twice over actually, where my ex moved on and so have I. So not, its not 'obvious' people with a different view than yours havent lost a child.

What's the magical time period where he's allowed to move on, or her for that matter?

I don't like the guy at all tbh, but it's so unfair to try and dictate how bereaved parents should act based on arbitrary time limits that random people decide is appropriate. We get enough pressure from everyone for everything relating to our grieving anyway, we can literally do no right for doing wrong sometimes.

@StopTheBusINeedAWeeWeeAWeeWeeBagOChips I apologise, my comment was unnecessary and I’m so sorry for any upset caused.

I haven’t lost a child, but I witnessed my mum after we lost my brother when he was just 12, two years down the line she hadn’t moved on much at all but it’s wrong for me to make assumptions about anyone else’s journey.

I am very sorry for your losses.

Presumably though, in the olden days when children were renamed after their dead sibling, it was both biological parents in agreement

You can't escape the context here, that AC now has a baby with his (and his ex's) friend and they have a similar name

It is what it is though, hope she can heal from this because it's got to sting very badly

I had a miscarriage many years ago. My ex and I had planned a name for the child that never made it. If I discovered he had a child and used the name it would be perfectly ok as far as I am concerned, touching even - but I suppose we are all different.

What a nasty post. Calling a dead baby's name awful.

Presumably your DS isn't dead, though?

Saff (Ashley’s previous partner and mother to his daughter who sadly passed away!) has stated that he wanted Azaylia to be called Azaylia Lion Cain. Saff refused and said that her little girl deserved a beautiful name so chose the name Diamond as that’s what her precious girl was and that the name Lion would suit a boy not a little girl.

So then at the time of his little girls arrival it was her mummy who chose the name Diamond and Initials A D C.

Ashley then chose to use the same initials, very similar first name, feminine middle name and his surname for his little boy who he has just welcomed with another woman who happens to have been one of their friends.

After Ashley asked Saff for another baby, to then welcome child with one of their friends is a kick in the teeth to a grieving mother and to take her babies name too is so disrespectful.

Saff is clearly struggling and wants people to know the truth. I don’t blame her. She wants to keep her baby’s memory alive.

You’re a bit sad for firstly knowing who these muppets are and secondly being so invested in their lives.

You’re a bit sad for firstly knowing who these muppets are and secondly being so invested in their lives.

1. This post is completely unnecessary rude at someone for absolutely no reason.
2. We should all at least know who these people are before posting
3. There's no indication that that person is 'invested' simply because they have asparagus for another person

Yet here you are on the thread investing time and it’s not sad for you?! Hmmm

I simply just repeated what Safiyya had posted as I followed her journey on Instagram with her beautiful daughter and have seen her stories since then recent things unraveled. I wouldn’t say that I am sad for showing support to a grieving mother who is using her platform as her voice and all I am doing is repeating what she posted to her public story.

It’s not that deep