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ashley cains new baby name so disrepecful!

228 replies

Ginger89 · 19/01/2024 04:54

my heart dropped for Saf tonight. AIBU to be absolutely raging for a stranger at the level of disrespect???!!

OP posts:
LuluBlakey1 · 19/01/2024 08:09

Who cares about these people or what they do? I have never heard of them and, reading the chosen name, I never want to hear anything else about them. I can picture them and how they live from reading the thread.

Sureaseggs44 · 19/01/2024 08:10

ruffler45 · 19/01/2024 07:33

Who is Ashley Cain?

He was on the tv programme the real full monty recently. It was very sad actually how much the death of his daughter had affected him. Perhaps that’s why him and his partner split as well I don’t know, but he obviously was not in a good place .

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 19/01/2024 08:10

I wasn’t really aware of this story or the child that died. Just googled and how do you have a new baby with a friend of your partner just 2 years after your baby died?? Counting back 9 months, so he must have been sleeping around literally months after their baby died. Or even during it all. So disrespectful whether or not they had broken up. He could have waited a little while longer surely. Twat.

the name thing - I think compounded with the timings it is off. But I do agree with his reasoning of using Diamond again, if it was from his family. But still feel for his ex :(

wowokay · 19/01/2024 08:10

soupfiend · 19/01/2024 07:55

Not in the way it is today with regard to having multiple current partners no, but people were widowed and moved on several times. One of my ancestors had 4 husbands and chilcren will all 4 and had replicate names for living children too.

Bit of a difference between a dead and living ex...

NameChangePlease4 · 19/01/2024 08:10

Honestly if I'd gone through the ordeal they have I can't guarantee I would stay sane, make great decisions, keep my common sense and not hurt anyone.

It's not even the same name, so I think we should give him a break on that one!

DrunkenElephant · 19/01/2024 08:11

I agree with you OP.

The first names have exactly the same letters bar one. It’s too close for comfort and I do feel sorry for Saf.

Underhisi · 19/01/2024 08:12

He may have behaved questionably in other ways but there is nothing wrong with how he has named the child.
My son has the same family middle name as his stillborn brother and their first names start with the same initial.

MatterofTime24 · 19/01/2024 08:12

For him, it’s the opposite of disrespect. I don’t get your overreaction.

ColdCrispMornings · 19/01/2024 08:12

I don’t think the first names are particularly similar. And the same middle name is fine, and his choice to make along with the child’s mother, I’ve known others do that.

I think you’re finding a problem because you don’t like him. I don’t like him either and I feel very sorry for his ex, but you’re reaching here OP.

RadiatorHead · 19/01/2024 08:14

Chill out OP. You don’t know these people! The names are kind of similar but not the same.

Shefliesonherownwings · 19/01/2024 08:15

Have any of you actually been in his position? Some of us have and see nothing wrong with how he’s named his son. I’ve also lost a baby daughter and would use her name as a middle name if I had another girl. It’s up to him how he honours his daughter and all you judgers ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

duckpancakes · 19/01/2024 08:15

I think its really sad that a baby has been born and is already receiving negative attention. Every life should be treasured.

theduchessofspork · 19/01/2024 08:17

Ginger89 · 19/01/2024 05:11

Aliyas Diamond Cain, proper narcissist that man, he must know the hurt he's causing as he posted another comment on his instagram justifying the A & diamond meaning. but wow what a woman Saf is how dignified she is, I'm shocked that the new baby mum even agreed to the name knowing how much hurt that would be causing a grieving mother of a child that had nothing to do with her I think it's disgusting!

OP do you think you’re a bit over involved in this?

Riverlee · 19/01/2024 08:19

I don’t see anything wrong. The first names are different and the middle names are the same. It’s not uncommon to use the same middle name.

LakeTiticaca · 19/01/2024 08:19

The child's names are not the same. Similar but not the same. I had to Google cos I didn't know who this person was. Why are you investing so much time and anger on something that is not your business and people you don't even know?

Hobnobswantshernameback · 19/01/2024 08:20

And this affects you how exactly?

AgentJohnson · 19/01/2024 08:23

Your over investment is baffling.

Tooi · 19/01/2024 08:30

I don’t know anything about this man or his kids so had to look it up. But I’d say it was actually respectful, to honour his first child. The new mum is taking that on, too. I mean, if it were the first name, then agree that’s painful. But this seems thoughtful.

Of course, context matters. So (& i dunno anything about them all!) but if there’s a massive feud between the three of them, then I can see how it might be taken wrongly - but if so, presumably everything’s nasty between them, and this is just one more thing.

Intriguedbythis · 19/01/2024 08:31

He has had an awful
awful awful time and I don’t think it’s your place to judge if it brings him so peace in his hell. I am sure he spoke to his ex first.

DrunkenElephant · 19/01/2024 08:32

Tooi · 19/01/2024 08:30

I don’t know anything about this man or his kids so had to look it up. But I’d say it was actually respectful, to honour his first child. The new mum is taking that on, too. I mean, if it were the first name, then agree that’s painful. But this seems thoughtful.

Of course, context matters. So (& i dunno anything about them all!) but if there’s a massive feud between the three of them, then I can see how it might be taken wrongly - but if so, presumably everything’s nasty between them, and this is just one more thing.

From what I gather, I don’t think it’s nasty between them as such, I think he caused a lot of hurt to Azaliya’s mum by implying that he wanted to have another baby with her and get back together, and then declaring that he was having a baby with a “friend” of his.

SwingTheMonkey · 19/01/2024 08:33

This level of interest in people you don’t know is absolutely insane.

The guy lost a child too, he can honour that child in any way he likes. The names aren’t the same.

skippy67 · 19/01/2024 08:37

OP, you're being ridiculous. And a bit weird. Your "heart dropped"? Really??
The two names are completely different anyway!

Adhdeeedout · 19/01/2024 08:37

Had to go look up who these people are. Why are you so invested in their lives OP? it’s creepy and weird.

Both names start with and an and end with an a- loads of parents do that to their living kids too.

pointbreak77 · 19/01/2024 08:38

I mean they are both pretty vile people who did not give that poor baby a shred of dignity. Am not surprised in the slightest. Self absorbed vacuous people.

DillDanding · 19/01/2024 08:54

I’m another that’s had to google him as I had no clue who he is.

The names are not the same? 🥴