ashley cains new baby name so disrepecful!

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my heart dropped for Saf tonight. AIBU to be absolutely raging for a stranger at the level of disrespect???!!

For all we know she might appreciate that her ex has paid a subtle homage to the child they both lost. She might well do something similar when/if she has another baby.

Your being ridiculous

Different names and he can call his children what he likes.

You dislike him because he left Saf and then had 2 children very quickly with another women.

@Queijo This is not some random. this is the father of the child that died. This is his way of honouring the child’s memory. We are all different. I might not do that but he wanted to and has the right to do so.

I’m not trying to be funny, it’s not a joke.

Yes YABU (and a bit weird)

Who is Ashley Cain?

@HollyKnight You don't have to agree with the OP that it's hurtful to use such a similar name, but to say the names are not a bit similar is ridiculous. His daughter's name had 7 letters, and he's used all but 1 of those to create the new name.

My family did it with a child in the 1930s

Am I missing something? Sure, the guy’s a prick, but the names are…different. No???

My daughter died some years ago, ex and I split, then I had a child with someone else.

I used my angel daughters name for the middle name of my baby.

I didn't even consider my ex tbh, she was my child, I wanted to honour my daughter. All of my kids have the same sort of style of name as well as that's my personal preference of name.

That doesn't make me a cunt, it makes me a grieving, loving Mum.

I'm no fan of Ashley for numerous reasons, but you can't deny he was a devoted dad to his daughter. He's absolutely entitled to use her middle name.

Not to say don't feel for Saffy, this is extremely hard for her, and having it all play out in the public eye must make it 20 times worse. Having total strangers get offended on her behalf and be awful to someone she has to work with at their daughters foundation, and uninvolved people insulting his baby is ridiculous though. Long after all these people move onto the next Internet drama they read about Saffy and Ashley will still have to be picking up the pieces of all this fallout.

Of course - it's the woman's fault. She's the silly one. Couldn't possibly be the man's fault!

He didn't create a new name. It is a name which has existed for a long time. Ashley's sister is called Alissia. Aliyas is closer to that than Azaylia.

I've no comment on this situation but I'm pretty sure the Victorians weren't big on having multiple baby mamas and so the Victorian tradition really isn't applicable here 🤣

Ok, I just googled this and it's not the "same" name at all. They are two different names and the baby is a boy.

Whatever you think of him, I don't think he has done anything wrong here regarding the name. Also- why are you blaming the new mother for this? If my partner had lost a child and wanted to name our son a name beginning with A as some kind of tribute it would be pretty heartless of me to say NO. Then, you'd be saying she was a heartless bitch so she cant really win here can she?

Of all the things to get your knickers in a knot over
Get a grip 🤣

but wow what a woman Saf is how dignified she is

I have no idea who they are or the story so no idea of this applies here but it irks me how women are often described as 'dignified' when the truth is they have poor boundaries, people pleasing tendencies and feel they can't speak out about being treated badly for fear of being called 'undignified'.

Not in the way it is today with regard to having multiple current partners no, but people were widowed and moved on several times. One of my ancestors had 4 husbands and chilcren will all 4 and had replicate names for living children too.

What?! They’re totally different names!😂 Mumsnet is a mad place sometimes.

You're joking, right?

I had to look this up as I didn't know anything about it. You need to take a long hard look at yourself OP. Attacking a man who has lost a child and who must be feeling very mixed feelings about having another one is disgusting. Isn't he allowed a bit of happiness without ghouls like you bringing up his dead baby? Hasn't he been through enough?

He's just used family names. Are you not allowed to do that if you lose a child who also has those family names?

If you are "raging" because of this you seriously need to calm down! 😂

My initial reaction was he's such a lovely baby but the name is similar in that apart from one letter it's an anagram of his sister's name. However when said out loud the names sound dissimilar as they don't rhyme and have a different amount of syllables. It has a lovely meaning. I don't agree with the rage on the part if Saf, she can speak for herself.

The only thing they have in common is the first letter! (And not being "traditional" English names which is irrelevant)

Do you know these people? Assuming not, why do you give a shit?

YABU

I don't know any of these people are but I'm off to Google now.

Has the mother of the child who passed actually said she is upset or are people frothing on her behalf? She could have had a conversation with her ex about this for all anyone knows.

Meh sleb drama.