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To feel bad but not let her claim the carers allowance?

355 replies

CaringResponsibilitiesWhoFor · 18/01/2024 18:04

My mum is early 60s and does not want to work, if she has to work, she wants to work about 5 hours a week but earn the equivalent of full time. She’s tried everything to get out of working, claiming various injuries, illnesses and even latching on to my DDs disability and telling people she has that. She’s been sent for assessments for ESA and PIP and each time been told as she lives independently, drives and can walk (albeit she puts on a limp) she can work – she goes on holiday alone at least twice per year. She went through a phase of repeatedly seeing the GP and now very rarely gets an appointment with them.

My DD is 9, and in receipt of DLA (MRC and LRM). She has a number of conditions all diagnosed including a genetic condition – we found out that I do not have the genetic code for this condition, so the chances are my mum/family also don’t have it. I strongly suspect ExH has the same condition but he’s refused testing which is his prerogative. The genetic condition causes all of her other diagnosed conditions, so I literally cannot see how mum has it.

My mum has latched onto this and keeps saying she has this condition and am I 100% certain I am not a carrier for it as she has all the symptoms. I’m not saying she doesn’t have some sort of condition; I am not qualified to say but the way she goes on and acts you’d think she was nearer to 90 – she walks with a stick, will ask me or DD how she got a wheelchair on the NHS as she needs one. She’s openly admitted its to get out of working as she thinks shes too old.

Both me and ExH earn too much to get carers allowance, but I get a UC top up on my wages which has the Disabled Child element and Carers Element added – although the latter mostly gets taken off due to me earning too much. My work do take into account this though so if I’m needed to drop everything and go to DDs school or to assist on school trips or I need to work from home because DD hasn’t slept well and therefore I haven’t slept well I can do all that. They also guarentee me time off for DDs appointments and meetings with school no matter when these are or if there’s already to many people off on that day – if it’s for an appointment they let me have it off. And they gave me paid leave for 6 weeks last year when DD had a surgery and she couldn’t go to school. If I lost the carers element I’d lose that flexibility, it’s classed as a reasonable adjustment for my status as a carer.

My mum has asked me if she can claim carers for DD, because in her words “Its money you’re not getting that someone can get”. She knows this means she won’t have to work as I claimed it for awhile when DD first got awarded DLA, and I wasn’t expected to work or look for it. She also knows it brings in the carers element of UC (even though you lose it £ for £ anyway if you get CA) and brings other things that she likes the idea of like a carers card to get a discount on things and carers performances at the local theatre (you do not have to have the person who you care for with you for these, they are literally performances of panto/theatre shows put on purely for carers, NHS and other emergency workers with proof that you are entitled to it they are usually free or heavily discounted entry I’ve booked Annual Leave at work a few times to go to them and they’re generally very good).

Part of me feels it’s selfish to not let someone claim it, after all neither me or ExH can. But then I feel like DD is my child, mum wouldn’t actually be doing any caring but would get all the benefits. She wouldn’t be able to go to some of DDs appointments as it needs to be a holder of PR for some things (start and end of Physio, surgeries etc.).

She thinks she can pick DD up from school and take her every day (another adjustment I have) so I can up my hours to “make up” for losing the flexibility at work and that she can do the appointments I’m not needed for, and if DD has another surgery she can do all the caring while I work.

She said I should ask you MN because she thinks you will all say she should have the carers allowance. That she's a doting granny and she should spend the next few years until retirement helping me so I can progress my career.

I'm not career minded, I am happy at my current level so thats not a consideration for me.

So voting:

YANBU - Don't let mum claim it
YABU - Let your mum claim it

OP posts:
ElevenSeven · 18/01/2024 18:27

Terrrence · 18/01/2024 18:14

No obviously.
You despise your mother. This was not a pleasant read.

I’d despise a mother who wanted to monetise my DC’s disability to get cheap theatre tickets too

Neriah · 18/01/2024 18:27

She goes on holiday alone at least twice per year.

Hmm. Interesting choice of example. I'm off to Egypt in two weeks on my own. Greece in May, on my own. I'm letting my best friend come in March and September. I am very disabled, evidenced, and have PIP.

People with disabilities get refused benefits. People with disabilities are neither stupid nor incapable of anything.

Benefit of the doubt, but why does this need posting? If she's not a carer, the answer is no, because she isn't a carer. The rest of the extraneous information suggests that this is another "benefit claimants bashing " thread.

msbevvy · 18/01/2024 18:28

You would lose your carers element of Universal Credit. I was under the impression that, unlike Carers Allowance, this isn't means tested. Maybe I am wrong but you should definitely look into it if even considering giving in to your Mum's unreasonable suggestion.

MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 18/01/2024 18:29

msbevvy · 18/01/2024 18:28

You would lose your carers element of Universal Credit. I was under the impression that, unlike Carers Allowance, this isn't means tested. Maybe I am wrong but you should definitely look into it if even considering giving in to your Mum's unreasonable suggestion.

Your correct op would loose carers element.

Fullyhuman · 18/01/2024 18:29

You’ve got a job you like with adjustments made for you due to your carer status. Your mum should appreciate this and not try to jeopardise your situation: you have a lot on your plate and need this stability, for yourself and your child.

IncompleteSenten · 18/01/2024 18:29

Geppili · 18/01/2024 18:25

Jesus! I hope this is made up. Your mother is a lazy and conniving malingerer who only cares for herself.

Yup. One of those you wish was rage bait.
Sadly, people like the ops mum do exist who see nothing wrong with wanting their daughter to collude in an illegal act and selfishly use their granddaughter's disability so they don't have to provide for themselves.

A doting grandmother my arse!

Snowydaysfaraway · 18/01/2024 18:29

Get a job op's dm. Using your dgc to sponge money is a disgrace...

2jacqi · 18/01/2024 18:29

@CaringResponsibilitiesWhoFor your mother is a lazy lying chancer!!!

IncompleteSenten · 18/01/2024 18:30

ElevenSeven · 18/01/2024 18:27

I’d despise a mother who wanted to monetise my DC’s disability to get cheap theatre tickets too

Me too.
It is worthy of utter contempt.

MaggieFS · 18/01/2024 18:30

Seriously? So wrong.

Messyhair321 · 18/01/2024 18:30

Does she or will she be caring for your dd for 35 hours a week?
Also, why doesn't she want to work? She sounds more more mentally ill than anything

cockadoodledandy · 18/01/2024 18:30

It’s fraud, which is a criminal offence, so no YANBU.

DPotter · 18/01/2024 18:32

No. No No and for the benefit of clarity NO

As I understand it - it would be fraudulent.
Also regulations for benefits are often changing and giving your DM this could completely fuck up future claims from you.

If your DM wants to pursue getting this genetic condition diagnosed, that's up to her.

Simonjt · 18/01/2024 18:32

How about you tell your mum you might need evidence of her providing care, so for 2-3 weeks she has to make sure she cares for your daughter for at least 35 hours. That may put her off.

ohdamnitjanet · 18/01/2024 18:33

Hell no, she’s lazy, a liar, a cheat and a fraud. If she actually was a doting gm she’d be helping you anyway, it’s not like she doesn’t have the time.

MamaAm · 18/01/2024 18:33

Are there any food blenders that include a steamer that aren’t just for babies?

jay55 · 18/01/2024 18:34

It's not worth the mess it would create.
If you or your husband got made redundant and needed to claim it, you'd be extra screwed.

howshouldibehave · 18/01/2024 18:34

I’m stunned that there are people out there who are actually like this?! How unpleasant.

Beadyeyes91 · 18/01/2024 18:35

Your mum is part of the problem of why hard working people are penalised. Absolutely no to allowing her to claim carers allowance/receive this. I hope she sees all of these comments supporting you in NOT allowing this.

AnneValentine · 18/01/2024 18:35

Lala727 · 18/01/2024 18:20

It's taxpayers money. All pps money. So no, it's not spare money someone can claim. Wtf

Providing care for a disabled child is parenting.

Edited

Are you suggesting parents shouldn’t get carers allowance…?

stayathomer · 18/01/2024 18:36

While I agree no, definitely, it’s actually awful that you are so absolutely sure you don’t believe a word she says. You said she wanted you to post, did she have to read all the awful stuff you said? A friend of mine wasn’t sure her mother really had a limp and then when they went and did X-rays she actually needed a hip replacement! This was after us all asking was she ok because we’d seen her struggle on various occasions and her saying she was probably just trying to get out of helping with the kids!!

Jifmicroliquid · 18/01/2024 18:36

Tell your lazy, entitled mother to get off her backside and work like the rest of us. My nearly 80 year old father still has to work as his pension is so poor, despite having had cancer.
She cannot use your disabled daughter as her free ticket to cheat the system. What a horrible woman. I hope she’s reading this, money grabbing disgrace.

CaringResponsibilitiesWhoFor · 18/01/2024 18:36

I understand the outrage, I do.

My first thought was "hell no" as well.

If it was ExH asking I'd be ok with it I think but then he can do all those appointments someone with PR is needed for as he has it, so thats why it made me think I should, but I see now it's not worth it and I won't be letting her claim it.

OP posts:
LakeTiticaca · 18/01/2024 18:36

No way. She's a CF of the highest order

Topseyt123 · 18/01/2024 18:36

Absolutely do not let your cheeky fucker mother do this. She isn't your Dd's carer at all. You are.

So she asked you to post this on MN because she thinks we would all support her does she!? Well, I never normally say this as it is a bad idea in so many instances, but in this case I really think you should SHOW HER THIS THREAD. She deserves to see it and have her arse handed to her on a plate!