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New partner and parenting

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Nchange12 · 16/01/2024 16:16

I have 3 teenagers, 18 (Y13), 17 (Y12) and 15 (Y11). I have been seeing someone for about 8 months, he also has 3 teens, 19 (second year of uni), 17 (Y13) and 15 (Y11).
He met my children last month, I told them about the relationship and they asked to meet him. I haven’t met his children, they know about me but don’t want to meet me yet, that’s fine.
The circumstances are different, their mother passed away 7 years ago, he hasn’t had a relationship since, I’m divorced and have a positive relationship with my ex, we don’t really have an arrangement for when the kids are where right now , leave it up to them.

Naturally we discuss the wonders of parenting teenagers. We could say our kids are very different though.
I’ve definitely dealt with more in terms of behaviour (vaping, school avoidance, general boundary pushing) where as he seems to have had very little of this.
Our parenting is remarkably different, I’d say he is stricter but his kids get more, while I’m more relaxed but my kids aren’t spoiled.
Examples

  • His kids were/are expected to get a job as soon as the turn 16 and pay digs accordingly (he says he puts this in savings), I don’t expect my children to work and if they wanted to I wouldn’t take money while they were still in school
  • He bought his older 2 cars for their 17th birthdays - I view this as being spoiled
  • If you walk into his house you wouldn’t think he had children (I’ve been while they’ve been out), everything they own gets kept in their rooms, down to costs and shoes, my house looks like I have teenagers!
  • His kids have a higher chore expectation, including doing all their own washing and cooking once or twice a week (for his middle child this is on top of working 8 hours on Sunday and 4 hours after school one night a week and studying for A-levels), I just expect mine to keep their room clean and help when asked
  • His kids have newer tech, he claims it is an incentive to work harder etc. He says he’d have a no tolerance policy on chat back or rule breaking but he hasn’t dealt with much in the last couple years, if he did all tech would be confiscated immediately and they wouldn’t be allowed out. I don’t take my kids tech regardless, I know I couldn’t be without my phone so why should they be
  • He wouldn’t allow a gap year after sixth form, if they chose to take it he will reduce the funding he offers while at uni, he would support one the year after uni though
  • He expects A and Bs (6-9s) exclusively in GCSEs and A-Levels and provides financial incentives. My kids have yet to achieve an A or B between them and I couldn’t care less - they did their best

I think you get the idea.

To the point, whenever my kids do something a bit silly (vape, get phone taken off them at school, don’t clean their room) and I have a little moan about it to him, he makes it clear he thinks I’m too relaxed, have low/no boundaries and my kids walk right over me. He then reminds me of his straight A, perfect Peter kids, who work and keep the house spotless and never dare to talk back.
All I can think is his kids must be either petrified of stepping out of line or miserable as they never catch a break.

AIBU to want to tell him that half of the reason his kids are like they are is because of their personality and not his stellar parenting and it’s luck of the draw? If I forced my kids to do everything his do they’d be bloody miserable!!
Or am I just a crappy parent who lets her kids run circles around her?

OP posts:
Noseybookworm · 18/01/2024 10:35

It sounds like you both have very different parenting styles. Nothing wrong with the way either of you parent, just different. What you need to work out is if this is going to cause you problems in the future. He seems quite comfortable criticising your parenting, that would really annoy me!

Seeingadistance · 18/01/2024 10:39

Haydenn · 16/01/2024 16:39

There doesn’t seem to be any thing wrong with his parenting. His kids have been through an awful lot losing their mum and sound remarkably well adjusted.

I agree.

CheeseFiend40 · 18/01/2024 10:39

So his children lost their mum at the ages of 12, 10 & 8. Since then he's raised them as a single parent. They're respectful to him, work extremely hard, get excellent grades. He sounds like he's doing an amazing job at raising these children!
You come across extremely judgmental and jealous. You've not even met his children yet you've determined that they're only hard working and well behaved because of their personalities or because they're petrified of him.

Or am I just a crappy parent who lets her kids run circles around her?

Yes.

stayathomer · 18/01/2024 10:46

Op as someone who is probably in a similar house to yourself except ages are different (eldest 16). You both sound worlds apart from each other. Both my brother and brother in law’s houses sound similar to your partner’s and the difference may be personality but surely you have to see some of it is parenting too? And not that it’s stellar, just more strict and different to yours (and remember he’s doing it on his own so he possibly had to do this to keep things together). I would worry how you’ll go forward to be honest, I personally couldn’t take that kind of an environment for a long amount of time, our house is a very chilled house, some may find it chaotic, but we’re happy that way.

QueenOfMOHO · 18/01/2024 10:50

I think he sounds like he's done a sterling job of raising his 3.

CJsGoldfish · 18/01/2024 11:02

AIBU to want to tell him that half of the reason his kids are like they are is because of their personality and not his stellar parenting and it’s luck of the draw?
Is it though? Not so sure about that so, yeah, YABU, and such a 'conversation' probably won't end well for you

Honestly, he sounds fine to me. Maybe because my parenting style is a whole lot closer to his than yours and I can assure you that my children were not and are not miserable 🙄
I'd cut your losses now OP, it's clear that you are not compatible.

C00k · 18/01/2024 11:24

I cannot comprehend why you wrote paragraphs slagging off your boyfriend and mentioned offhandedly that his kids are horrifically traumatised beyond most people’s comprehension. JFC
And yes, he sounds like he’s a great parent, obviously.

JRM17 · 18/01/2024 11:44

When you inevitability break up can I get his number he sounds ideal, you on the other hand sound lazy and jealous.

Umidontknow · 18/01/2024 12:31

You sound quite judgemental dispite the fact his kids seem to be well brought up especially under the circumstances. Personally I think having teenagers that don't help out around the house, answer back regularly and get in trouble in school is spoiling them just as much, if not more so than buying them a car. It also really isn't helping to set them up for the real world, but that's up to you. Losing their mum has probably made them grow up quicker too. I'm confused why you think behaving well equals them being unhappy?

beachcitygirl · 18/01/2024 12:36

He sounds infinitely preferable to me and I think I would much prefer to be around his kids. He
Sounds
Awesome.

Deathbyfluffy · 18/01/2024 12:36

His kids will be well-equipped for adult life, whereas you won't even take your kid's tech off them if they deserve it - personally I think his methods will yield greater results in future, whereas you seem happy to do what you need to for a quiet life.

As for 'I couldn't live without my phone, so why should they'... sigh.

Deathbyfluffy · 18/01/2024 12:38

femfemlicious · 18/01/2024 10:07

They do say children of single dad's achieve more than children of single mother's 😢

In this case that's due to clear boundaries, a good introduction into the 'adult' world and the way it works from 16 and the rewards that good behaviour brings.

Nothing to be sad about - he's doing a great job and should be praised.
Anyone can do the same and follow his footsteps with some willpower and effort.

ScattyGinger · 18/01/2024 12:56

He sounds like the parent I wish I was to be fair. 🤣 I'd love to be that organised and together, but I'm too scatty. I do encourage them to do the best they can though, and would love to be able to help them and offer incentives like this when they do their exams. You say he's putting money in savings for them paying their way. That seems fair, and sets them up for when they leave.

GintyMcGinty · 18/01/2024 13:01

You both sound judgemental of each other.

fizzandchips · 18/01/2024 13:02

As someone who had a parent die, my experience was I didn’t want to cause the other parent any stress so pretty much meant I was a ‘perfect’ teenager. It’s not healthy, but i was so worried about my sole remaining parent also dying that I did everything I could to make their life as easy as possible. I hadn’t really articulated it until I read your OP and his children sound a bit like I was at their age so I wonder if there’s something similar going on for them as a family?

Heyhoherewegoagain · 18/01/2024 13:05

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And jealous….he sounds very strict, you sound very laissez faire (I’m being kind) and somewhere in the middle lies the right path for all, but that won’t happen

Goldbar · 18/01/2024 13:06

Hats off to him, he's parenting three bereaved children apparently fairly successfully through the teenage years. I don't know why you're so critical of him - surely you can see that his parenting "job" is and has been tougher than yours?

You're doing fine too. You just have a different parenting style. Maybe you're not setting your children up as well as he is for adult life, but maybe they'll be better-adjusted emotionally? Who knows?

All kids here are receiving "good enough" parenting. The main issue is that you both sound fairly judgemental.

Westsussex · 18/01/2024 13:14

I think he sounds like he's done a brilliant job, sorry, but if this is triggering, it's for a reason, I agree with the other posters. You seem jealous and resentful towards him. It's not his fault your kids are the way they are it's not a reason to hate on him. Maybe you're not compatible.

GFBurger · 18/01/2024 13:16

@Testina

Sorry, I didn’t mean single parents don’t care or notice. Of course not.

My comment may have sounded flippant but I am just talking from my own experience having a single Dad. It seemed easier to hide what we were doing from him, while he was working two or three jobs to keep us going, rather than when my two parent peers were doing ‘naughty’ things.

gemma19846 · 18/01/2024 13:49

Sounds like he works hard and has standards for his kids. I dont think theres anything wrong with that. He can afford to buy his kids nice things and it sounds like they deserve them. He sets boundaries (no vaping etc) where as you dont. Your kids dont have any consequences for poor behaviour where as his do. If they behave and do well in school theyre rewarded. Sounds fair to me

"I cant live without my phone so why should they?"

Really....

C00k · 18/01/2024 13:57

Looks like @Nchange12 wont bother replying 🙄

newyearnewknees · 18/01/2024 14:08

Why do I never meet men like this, only lazy Disney dads. This has restored my faith.

gemma19846 · 18/01/2024 14:25

This guy lost his wife and the kids lost their mum at a young age. It sounds like hes done an amazing job and has done everything he can to support and encourage his children. You then call them spoilt. You sound awful and i hope the poor guy runs a mile to be honest

Snowdogsmitten · 18/01/2024 17:52

Hmm. I parent like your partner.

cockadoodledandy · 18/01/2024 18:22

It sounds like he’s setting his kids up to be successful to be honest. Getting them used to having responsibilities and having to contribute. First to the household, later to society. Buying your children a car if you can afford it isn’t spoiling them, it’s supporting them. Giving a child a leg up isn’t the same as spoiling them.

16 does sound young to be paying digs. I wouldn’t expect that but I would drop all ‘pocket money’ if they were earning.

It just sounds like you have different approaches. Yours sounds chaotic and more on the gentle parenting side, his sounds more strict and structured. Whether any parallels can be drawn on the behaviour of said kids I don’t know.

Also don’t forget he’s a sole parent. He’s not sharing this burden with anyone and he’s set rules and guidelines that allow him to be able to parent three teenagers alone. That’s quite a feat.

I don’t think the fact that your approaches differ is such a problem, personally I think he fact you’re criticising him is the bigger red flag. He’s allowed to have a different approach to you. Does he criticise your parenting?