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To ask you to ‘Destroy without reading’? (Bereavement related)

353 replies

Izzy24 · 13/01/2024 10:01

Would you?

So if you were coping with clearing personal belongings and you came across a package marked as above, would you respect that person’s privacy and dispose of it without reading? Even if it was unsealed?

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SlowerMovingVehicle · 13/01/2024 10:56

Drama queen personality that wants people to read it and be talked about forever, or they would have destroyed it and/or dealt with the issues with the persons living, before death. I'd probably just bin in that case.

HarpyRampant · 13/01/2024 10:56

Peteryourhorseishere · 13/01/2024 10:54

Not to make light of this at all, but I might do this for my children.

Just a note inside an envelope marked liked that reading, “I knew one of you nosey buggers would open it! love you!” maybe stick a tenner in.

I know exactly which one of my three children l would definitely open something like that without hesitation already.

That’s sweet.

I would definitely read.

WhereverIlaymycatthatsmyhome · 13/01/2024 10:56

What an interesting question.

I actually surprised myself with my own response to it.

If it were my DC, then no, I would not read and would destroy. If it were my alcoholic dad or my narc mother, then I probably couldn’t resist having a peek.

I reflected on that, and I think it comes down to respect. I don’t have much respect for my parents, but have absolute respect for my adult DC.

Mufflepuff · 13/01/2024 10:56

Peteryourhorseishere · 13/01/2024 10:08

Yes, and I did do With my dads stuff.

He’s not dead yet, but dementia, so he will never look at his stuff again, he couldn’t even tell you what year it is and just stares ahead.

Cleaned out his house when he went into a home. there was a box marked that and it contained some diaries (it wasn’t sealed, the lid was half torn. He also had a box full of diaries, he kept them religiously for years.

Chucked them all away, I had no desire to read his private items when his privacy and dignity is being stripped away daily in he home anyway.

What scares me is the box he’s got for after his death with a DVD marked “to be watched when I die”. I don’t even have a fucking dvd player and I know it will be filled with guilt trips (he was that sort of person), how to invest his money and how lucky I am to have it (he held his money over me his whole life and now all been eaten up by care home fees), I’ve got enough guilt that he ended up in a home. So that will be a fun day!

Could you get someone you trust to watch and then they can tell you the essence of what it said without you having the trauma of watching it?

shepherdsangeldelight · 13/01/2024 10:57

AutumnFroglets · 13/01/2024 10:12

Depends on what it is. Diaries or journals i would burn without reading, official looking documents i would skim read first. Family historical papers i would definitely read.

If the person had really, really wanted nobody to read them then they should have destroyed the items themselves instead of writing a note.

I would probably quickly skim read (and stop reading if it turned out to be very personal).

I would also factor in if the person had actually had opportunity to destroy the item or whether they'd had a very sudden illness which might have meant they couldn't do it.

MargaretThursday · 13/01/2024 10:58

SoupDragon · 13/01/2024 10:19

I honestly don't know.

I think I'd look enough to get the gist of what it was about and make my decision then. It could be something that people need to/should know rather than something that should be kept secret.

Edited

That's very much my thoughts. It could be something that could be quite important and needed.
In some ways especially if they had dementia, because I've known a couple of people with that who have got paranoia as part of it, and would have been quite capable of sealing up some very important things that were needed and labelling it that.

I think though if it was something that effected another person badly (eg if my dad left something saying he had a love child; no, that's not likely!) then I would keep it a secret until people who might be effected would also be dead (so until mu mum died in the above example)

MadCatLady27 · 13/01/2024 10:59

I'm a nosy cow and would have to read. I couldn't put off the "I wonder why it was marked like that" if I didn't

I'd also want to know if it was something that would affect me

Oaktree55 · 13/01/2024 10:59

Obviously the moral thing to do is destroy but I would 100% open. I say this as someone who has had family secrets re a relative given away decades ago when the woman had no choice but has since made contact with this relative given away and now have a great extended family as a result! It might be something that leads to a big positive!

Ejismyf · 13/01/2024 11:01

Absolutely, my mum died last year and I instantly deleted her WhatsApp, messenger, messages etc. I feel strongly that she deserves her privacy still even tho she is gone.

rockwater · 13/01/2024 11:02

Oh, who am I kidding- I'd read it. If you really want to keep something unread you should label it as "council dustbin schedule" or "bathroom grouting instructions" - make it as unappealing as possible. Labelling it as that guarantees curiosity

Baircasolly · 13/01/2024 11:03

Not a chance I could just chuck it away and live the rest of my life not knowing, especially as it's almost certainly more mundane and less mysterious than I'd be imagining.

VintageDiamonds · 13/01/2024 11:03

I wouldn’t be able to not read. I just know that if I didn’t, I’d spend the rest of my life wondering. I think I’d also wonder if it contained some information that I may find out about via other means in the future anyway, and I’d want to be prepared for that.

I would read. Then destroy depending on contents.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 13/01/2024 11:03

I’d like to think I would, but I wouldn’t bet my life savings on it!

DeeLusional · 13/01/2024 11:04

I would definitely read it.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/01/2024 11:05

@Peteryourhorseishere

can’t you get someone else to watch the DVD for you? Then they can tell you if it is important or constructive for you to watch, or not to bother.

My my friend’s mother left her a letter which she was very wary of, so I read it for her. I told her it wasn’t particularly pleasant so just to chuck it away.

Mirabai · 13/01/2024 11:05

Of course I would.

If it was private dairies I wouldn’t read much. If it was details of a secret love child - hell yeah.

Fullofxmascbeer · 13/01/2024 11:05

I’d maybe scan what documents relate to, to check nothing of major importance but I like to think I have enough integrity to honour their privacy. I certainly wouldn’t read diaries, letters or anything obviously personal.

Universalsnail · 13/01/2024 11:06

I mean morally I should destroy

Realistically I'd probably at least glance through. I think leaving something like this for other people to deal with is kind of stupid thing to do tbh.

Tinkerbyebye · 13/01/2024 11:06

i would look. If you want something destroyed so no one knows anything do it whilst alive

Klcak · 13/01/2024 11:06

Peteryourhorseishere · 13/01/2024 10:08

Yes, and I did do With my dads stuff.

He’s not dead yet, but dementia, so he will never look at his stuff again, he couldn’t even tell you what year it is and just stares ahead.

Cleaned out his house when he went into a home. there was a box marked that and it contained some diaries (it wasn’t sealed, the lid was half torn. He also had a box full of diaries, he kept them religiously for years.

Chucked them all away, I had no desire to read his private items when his privacy and dignity is being stripped away daily in he home anyway.

What scares me is the box he’s got for after his death with a DVD marked “to be watched when I die”. I don’t even have a fucking dvd player and I know it will be filled with guilt trips (he was that sort of person), how to invest his money and how lucky I am to have it (he held his money over me his whole life and now all been eaten up by care home fees), I’ve got enough guilt that he ended up in a home. So that will be a fun day!

I’d watch that DVD now to save yourself the upset of doing it when he actually dies. Then you can get rid of it.

sammylady37 · 13/01/2024 11:07

Can people really not figure out why someone might not have destroyed things while they were alive? Sudden death, incapacitating illness meaning they were incapable of doing so, and it’s reasonable for them to have held onto things for a good portion of their life, in the hope/expectation that they’ll get the opportunity to destroy them later.

I’m in my 40s, I hope to have a good few decades of life yet and in those decades I’d like to have the pleasure of re-reading old love letters from a now-deceased lover, looking back on photos etc, so I’m not going to destroy them now, and I hope that I will have the opportunity to do so as a much older woman. But if I don’t, I hope that those who survive me have enough integrity to respect my privacy.

Peteryourhorseishere · 13/01/2024 11:07

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/01/2024 11:05

@Peteryourhorseishere

can’t you get someone else to watch the DVD for you? Then they can tell you if it is important or constructive for you to watch, or not to bother.

My my friend’s mother left her a letter which she was very wary of, so I read it for her. I told her it wasn’t particularly pleasant so just to chuck it away.

I honestly don’t have anyone that close to ask. my eldest is 21 but I wouldn’t lay that on him.

sammylady37 · 13/01/2024 11:08

Tinkerbyebye · 13/01/2024 11:06

i would look. If you want something destroyed so no one knows anything do it whilst alive

At what age should you destroy things that are precious to you, to prevent nosy people snooping after your death?

Klcak · 13/01/2024 11:08

I’m afraid I’d read it op. I am the kind of person who needs to know. I think that any decisions that need making require all available info.

Mirabai · 13/01/2024 11:09

sammylady37 · 13/01/2024 11:07

Can people really not figure out why someone might not have destroyed things while they were alive? Sudden death, incapacitating illness meaning they were incapable of doing so, and it’s reasonable for them to have held onto things for a good portion of their life, in the hope/expectation that they’ll get the opportunity to destroy them later.

I’m in my 40s, I hope to have a good few decades of life yet and in those decades I’d like to have the pleasure of re-reading old love letters from a now-deceased lover, looking back on photos etc, so I’m not going to destroy them now, and I hope that I will have the opportunity to do so as a much older woman. But if I don’t, I hope that those who survive me have enough integrity to respect my privacy.

In that case they wouldn’t have been able to write “destroy without reading”.
If they wanted, they could have destroyed the whole lot at that point.

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