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Partner a little upset about pregnancy timing

821 replies

LouLouPat · 12/01/2024 15:19

I’ll start with some background, I’ve been with my partner for 3 years, his wife passed away 6 years ago. He has a 17 year old daughter, she’s an only child.
We have been talking about having a baby, we expected it would take a while so I came off the pill in September, I’m now 9 weeks pregnant, due in August. We will likely only had this one baby, I’m 38, he’s 46.
August is also when his daughter turns 18, although not until the very end, and it’s when she will get her A-Level results and prepare to move for uni. Obviously this isn’t ideal timing for a new baby but we weren’t expecting it to happen so fast!!
My partner is super nervous about telling his DD, he thinks she may react badly or feel replaced.
I wouldn’t say she’s a normal teenager by any means, in fact I think she’s quite incredible. I’ve lived here for a year and her room is always spotless, she works part time, her school work is exemplary, she doesn’t hang out with people likely to get her in trouble and is very independent (she’s in a long distance relationship, every holiday they meet up sometimes all the way down in London or Devon (we are in the north west).
I honestly don’t think she will have a bad reaction she’s very sweet and just a lovely girl.
However It is making me sad that my partner isn’t excited to tell anyone, it’s making me doubt if he even wants this baby. It’s really getting me down.

So AIBU to feel down? Is the timing really so awful? How can we approach this tactfully?

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polka22 · 12/01/2024 19:35

I don't have any advice, but I can't believe how mean people are being about your and your partners choice to have a child, as if it's their life and business? My DH has 2 kids, 17 & 13, and we are currently TTC (had 4 mc sadly) the fact that people can even say he is replacing his kids is baffling to me. Like wow... I'd be so upset if someone said this about my DH because it's not the case at all. They stay with us half of the time & we are a blended family and are looking forward to becoming older siblings (especially DSD 17). Madness, people have such crazy opinions on lives that are not theres

Muchof · 12/01/2024 19:35

SoreAndTired1 · 12/01/2024 19:25

A childbirth where the baby/mother could be in medical crisis? Or some tennis match. People on here really have fucked up priorities if they think a father should abandon mother and baby for some tennis match. Really, really, really messed up priorities.

Well of course if there is a medical crisis he cannot go. 🙄 But let's assume, based on the balance of probability, that there isn't a medical crisis. And it is not about a tennis match, it is about an 18 year old daughter that lost her mother and has reached a life milestone.

LavenderHaze19 · 12/01/2024 19:35

Imagine if your sole surviving parent didn’t care enough about you and one of the biggest milestones in your life to use contraception for a month. A few days, even.

I see why he’s upset about the timing, but it was very much avoidable with a bit of counting and some little-known items available called ‘condoms’.

Poor girl. Shows you the kind of father he is though.

Avacardo2023 · 12/01/2024 19:36

Everydayimhuffling · 12/01/2024 19:22

If you think she'd rather go with her boyfriend, tell her about the trip now and offer her to take someone or her dad to go. Tell her about the baby next week, so that she's not guilted into letting him stay. That'll tell you what she really wants. Then let him go if she wants him to. You can cope for a week or so. Her feelings are more important than yours in this situation. Unfortunately you're coming across as very selfish right now.

Just from personal experience I think I would leave it until at least the 12 week point to tell anyone. Hopefully it will all be fine but unfortunately there are often issues when you conceive as older parents.

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:36

So we are encouraging the Dp here to implement ‘what you don’t know won’t hurt you’?

I'm not "encouraging" anything. I'm saying there's a whole load of fucking drama over nothing at this point - it's a plan the daughter doesn't even know about! It's like me having a fleeting thought to buy my daughter something amazing for Christmas and then going actually on second thoughts I can't afford that, I'll get her an alternative. She'd never know my original thought would she? So how's she going to be hurt by it?

She'll probably love the opportunity to holiday with her boyfriend or friend at that age! I know my 17 year old DD certainly would prefer that to a holiday with me🤷‍♀️

adriftinadenofvipers · 12/01/2024 19:36

JanewaysBun · 12/01/2024 19:31

Even if you leave as is he may need to cancel last min if you have PND/baby needs medical attention/you need to go back to hospital (amongst people i know we've had retained placenta/child stops breathing/jaundice/weeks in hospital due to rsv/ haemorraging) It's too much of a gamble and would be much worse for DSD to have the disappointment and stress of rescheduling - if she were my dd i would want her to have a trip that isn't so reliant on everything going well.

If she can go with a friend (considering she has said she didnt want a long holiday with her dad previously) that will be waaaaay more fun - two 18 yos exploring the magic of NYC will be fantastic)

Or if the hotel doesnt allow under 21s can he move the trip to the xmas holidays? If she feels lonely and homesick at uni she will have the lovely trip to look forward to in order to make it through that first term.

Tbh this seems more like your DP wants to go if she has literally said she would prefer not to have a week with him previously.

But you need to tell her asap, she sounds like a lovely girl, she may even prefer to spend time with the baby before leaving for uni.

Well I wouldn't be happy sending 2 18 year olds off to NYC on their own unless they are confident, seasoned travellers - fucking US immigration scares me and I am far from 18!

TheDogIsInCharge · 12/01/2024 19:36

LouLouPat · 12/01/2024 18:34

The trip can’t be cancelled, which is why she should go with a friend, not need to know her dad was ever planning on going with her.

I don't think you want alternative opinions on this. Just to reinforce that what you want to happen is right...

Please do not underestimate the shock this baby will be to your step daughter. And I echo someone upthread who said there may be way more going on with her than the surface 'keeps her room clean, studies all the time, no bad friends" etc. She lost her mum when she was 12 years and and had a step mum move in when she was 15. I would actually worry that she appears so unaffected and robust. There may be a whole lot buried. Her father is everything to her. Any hint that she is "losing him" or choosing another child over her will be taken very, very badly. Can you see this? My daughter's girlfriend virtually lived with us in the year before A'levels and during her 18th. Let me tell you the absence of her mum - who died several years prior - was felt extremely keenly. It was heartbreaking really.

The next months in the run up to A'Levels and going off to uni will be very stressful, especially if she cares and wants to do well. You will need to balance the excitement of your baby with the very large milestones being navigated by a teen who may well be very much not as "grounded" as you think she is.

I think your husband should go on his trip, and I say that as someone who was two weeks overdue and had a three day labour followed by an emergency c-section. If I had been in your situation, I'd have moved my mum in. With hindsight, that may have been a good thing as my husband was next to useless with a newborn anyway!

TeaKitten · 12/01/2024 19:37

WagWoofWalkMeeoow · 12/01/2024 19:34

@ManateeFair

its not abusive FFS.

He was in board with trying for a baby, he's making the OP feel bad & not enjoy her pregnancy. If being pregnant at the time she's now due, he could have applied a little maths & a brain cell & used condoms for a few weeks.

instead, he's now spoiling the OP's pregnancy, the only one she's likely to have & that's not fair!!

There's nothing wrong with saying 'if this pregnancy is such a terrible thing for you now, we could terminate'

Yes there is. Threatening to terminate her only
pregnancy because he’s a little sad about the timing is manipulative bullshit. They are both too old to be pulling stupid stunts like that. Plus what if he says yes? That’s not going to help either of them is it. Why do you want OP to ruin her relationship?

adriftabroad · 12/01/2024 19:37

Unfortunately (for OP) this has brought this "partnership" into sharp focus.

I would be getting married and insisting the trip happens and being bloody grown up about it.

Or, look up CMS payments to spur you on.

ChristmasSugarplumFairy · 12/01/2024 19:37

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Is that you, Margaret Beaufort? She was a vicious bitch too 👏

Secondstart1001 · 12/01/2024 19:38

@Saymyname28 i agree with you! Maybe DH has heart set on going with daughter but the situation has changed!

Folklore9074 · 12/01/2024 19:38

Wow this thread has really become derailed with this US tip stuff.

OP the timing of babies is never 'ideal' you need to sit down with your partner and really communicate. This is your first baby so of course you are super excited, for him its his second so perhaps there is a mix of the knowing the full scope of what is coming plus the history around his wife and DD? Have a cards on the table, honest chat. Find out what is going on with him and how he wants to approach speaking to your DSD.

She sounds like a level-headed girl and you can't, and shouldn't, aim to control her reaction on this. Yes she may have a lot of feelings that are complicated about the birth of a new sibling. She may be really happy about the whole thing. Or somewhere in between. You and her dad need to tell her.

You made the joint decision to try for a baby and he must be a decent human being if he raised such a lovely young woman. Hopefully he will work out what he feels about this and you can enjoy the pregnancy together.

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:38

I speak as someone who both lost my mum as a child, had half siblings in my teens after my dad remarried, AND had a 17 year old daughter myself.

And I'm still team OP here all the fucking way.

RenoDakota · 12/01/2024 19:39

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Does it make you happy to make bitchy comments like that about another woman's life?
You should be ashamed of yourself.

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:39

Is that you, Margaret Beaufort? She was a vicious bitch too 👏

😂

Wheresthefibre · 12/01/2024 19:39

WagWoofWalkMeeoow · 12/01/2024 19:34

@ManateeFair

its not abusive FFS.

He was in board with trying for a baby, he's making the OP feel bad & not enjoy her pregnancy. If being pregnant at the time she's now due, he could have applied a little maths & a brain cell & used condoms for a few weeks.

instead, he's now spoiling the OP's pregnancy, the only one she's likely to have & that's not fair!!

There's nothing wrong with saying 'if this pregnancy is such a terrible thing for you now, we could terminate'

It’s absolutely abusive to use a termination as a manipulative tactic. Unless op actually wants to do that, saying ‘we could terminate’ when op doesn’t want to and only designed to get him to answer in the way op wants, is manipulative.

You may not think it is. But it doesn’t change that it is.

He isn’t spoiling the Ops pregnancy. Her pregnancy is going to be long. He currently has some feelings he is struggling with.

Yes he could have used contraception. So could Op.

adriftinadenofvipers · 12/01/2024 19:39

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:36

So we are encouraging the Dp here to implement ‘what you don’t know won’t hurt you’?

I'm not "encouraging" anything. I'm saying there's a whole load of fucking drama over nothing at this point - it's a plan the daughter doesn't even know about! It's like me having a fleeting thought to buy my daughter something amazing for Christmas and then going actually on second thoughts I can't afford that, I'll get her an alternative. She'd never know my original thought would she? So how's she going to be hurt by it?

She'll probably love the opportunity to holiday with her boyfriend or friend at that age! I know my 17 year old DD certainly would prefer that to a holiday with me🤷‍♀️

Did you miss the part where he's already spent a fortune on tickets? (though I guess he could resell...)

Personally I do think it's mad to spend all that on an 18th birthday but in the sad circumstances, I think it would be lovely to give her a memory she will have for the rest of her life. Which the dad could have done if he and his Dp hadn't been so stupid!!!

You know what too - she doesn't maybe know now but these things have a horrible habit of coming out. Imagine how she would feel if such a treat was cancelled on her because her dad and his partner couldn't manage contraception for one goddamn month! I'm quite sure she doesn't want to think of them having sex in the first place, at 17!

Underthesea65 · 12/01/2024 19:39

MyLadyTheKingsMother · 12/01/2024 19:11

I could tell you my opinion but you wouldn't like it.

I have a sneaking suspicion my opinion is very similar to yours

adriftinadenofvipers · 12/01/2024 19:40

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:38

I speak as someone who both lost my mum as a child, had half siblings in my teens after my dad remarried, AND had a 17 year old daughter myself.

And I'm still team OP here all the fucking way.

👏

theconfidenceofwho · 12/01/2024 19:40

Allthingsdecember · 12/01/2024 15:56

Well, no it’s not great timing for his daughter. In fact it’s pretty awful timing. I think it would be hard for anyone her age to get a new sibling at the same time as experiencing huge life events of their own. But she lost her mum. That will make things like turning 18 and starting university more emotionally charged than normal.

I think he’s been incredibly shortsighted not to plan with this in mind…But the time to consider that was before he had unprotected sex.

I honestly don’t know what to suggest except that he makes sure she still feels special on her 18th birthday (which might be difficult given that he will be looking after a newborn and supporting you at the same time… but that’s his problem. You and the new baby shouldn’t lose out either). He also needs to make sure that he still gives her as much support around starting university as he would have if he hadn’t just had another child.

This!

Feel gutted for her with the timing & can't understand why on earth you didn't wait 6 months or so?

MissersMercer · 12/01/2024 19:41

User13579367337 · 12/01/2024 15:35

He 100% should not cancel this trip with his daughter

This. 100%. That's literally saying she's replaced now so he can't go.

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:42

@adriftinadenofvipers

No, I did NOT miss the part where the tickets are already bought but - once again - that you for pointing that out.

My point is, regardless of the tickets being already bought, the daughter knows nothing of dad's original thinking that he might be the one to go with her. So he can equally present the tickets and suggest she takes her boyfriend/ close friend, and nothing has changed for the daughter.

JanewaysBun · 12/01/2024 19:42

@adriftinadenofvipers me and my friends travelled all over the world as young adults. The 3 scariest things that happened to me during that time happened in london.

Wheresthefibre · 12/01/2024 19:43

ncforthisthreadonly24 · 12/01/2024 19:36

So we are encouraging the Dp here to implement ‘what you don’t know won’t hurt you’?

I'm not "encouraging" anything. I'm saying there's a whole load of fucking drama over nothing at this point - it's a plan the daughter doesn't even know about! It's like me having a fleeting thought to buy my daughter something amazing for Christmas and then going actually on second thoughts I can't afford that, I'll get her an alternative. She'd never know my original thought would she? So how's she going to be hurt by it?

She'll probably love the opportunity to holiday with her boyfriend or friend at that age! I know my 17 year old DD certainly would prefer that to a holiday with me🤷‍♀️

No it’s not like that. It’s like you having a thought, booking it, planning it all out and then not giving her it.

And that thing would need to be arranging specially because you recognise your child might struggle due to fact that their other parent is dead.

How old is your 17 year olds boyfriend? My dd would rather go on a trip with me (19) if it was a for an interest we always shared.

You are encouraging it. You are saying she doesn’t know so it won’t hurt her. So it’s fine.

beetr00 · 12/01/2024 19:43

@TheDogIsInCharge an excellent post