ANOTHER war. Anyone else feel terrified of what could come

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Breaking news; UK signing off on air strikes against Yemen. Is this just going to get worse ?

Since having kids this honestly petrifies me. This world is a mess! I feel like it's one thing since another ever since Covid nothing has felt the same at all! Life before that almost feels completely different and a blur ! Anyone else?

No one can promise you war is not coming to the UK. But the bombing in Yemen will not cause it.

Yes, it will be financial gain to us.
But conversely I don't remember us bombing Somalia or doing anything else when the Somali pirates were attacking shipping? What's the difference?

But why do you think this action in Yemen woud make it at all likely you would need to leave the UK in hurry? It makes no sense. Who do you think is going to invade?

@piscofrisco The Royal Navy absolutely took and continues to take action against piracy. The difference is pirates aren't usually launching surface to air missiles.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2023/october/17/231017-trent-completes-african-mission

@piscofrisco Because other methods were successful.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/23/the-world-beat-somali-pirates-why-cant-it-stop-west-african-piracy/

Also the Houthis aren't pirates.

@piscofrisco in summary the somali pirates were boarding ships with hand held weapons. Armed guards on ships was enough to stop this happening.
The people in Yemen are using drones are missiles so can not be stopped just by armed guards. They are funded by Iran.

Ok. I stand corrected. It's all entirely normal and justifiable that we are, with hitherto unforeseen haste, bombing Yemen.

I'm guessing that the prices of everything will go up regardless and it'll be another thing for the current UK government to blame.
To add to
Ukraine
The pandemic
The NHS strikes
Feel free to add anything I've missed

Ditto

And as there is nothing I can do to change anything I'm not stressing.

I have a lot of things closer to home to worry about if I need to.

@piscofrisco the bombing is to protect our economic interests. We rely on international shipping.
If you want peace we would have to become self sufficient

You need to listen to analysts talking about the potential impact on trade and prices

I remember looking this up once, and did so again because it seems relevant:

“Of the past 3,400 years, humans have been entirely at peace for 268 of them, or just 8 percent of recorded history.”

Note recorded history, so it very likely that the 268 figure isn’t accurate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/06/books/chapters/what-every-person-should-know-about-war.html

Yes I know that's the justification that has been given. But there have been numerous situations globally that 'threaten our economy' in which we haven't got involved... so why now? Why this one?

This is a good listen - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001v3w6

The academic interviewed was very interesting and helpful on the origin of the Houthis and how they operate.

Can you say though whether you are ready for another round of high inflation and all that brings?

There might not be energy payouts the next time and or wage deals

No of course not. But I don't see bombing Yemen preventing those things happening either. Will be a useful thing for the government to blame them on though won't it?

If someone has to leave on a hurry then their new credit cards won’t be of much help anyway.

I don’t know what the country is that never gets involved in anything is, but if it all kicks off the poster won’t be able to escape at all.

it’s all a bit naive.

Drone attacks and anti ship missiles fired towards HMS Diamond by Houthis, amongst commerical ships, just a couple of days ago have something to do with it

@piscofrisco Because the potential consequences are huge. The Red Sea is a very very busy shipping area. We are increasingly reliant on oil and LNG that arrives via there from the middle east due to the conflict in Ukraine.

TL:DR if we did not address this if you think last winter's energy and CoL living crisis was bad - you ain't seen nothing yet.

Because some threats are bigger and more immediate than others, and the gains have presumably been calculated to be greater than any potential losses.

What was the cause of last winters energy crisis again? And the increase in food costs due to wheat shortages? Was it not given as the situation in the Ukraine?

Why don't you just leave now? It must be such a worry for you living in such an area, and the winters too!

I’m carrying on with life as normal. I’ve applied for urgent passports/ replacements for all of the family as a precaution.

So how do urgent passports differ from any other passport and what is a replacement passport, have you not got passports already from the last threat of war.

The shipping needs to continue otherwise we’ll get another energy price shock