ANOTHER war. Anyone else feel terrified of what could come

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Breaking news; UK signing off on air strikes against Yemen. Is this just going to get worse ?

Since having kids this honestly petrifies me. This world is a mess! I feel like it's one thing since another ever since Covid nothing has felt the same at all! Life before that almost feels completely different and a blur ! Anyone else?

@Cauliflowercheeseandsausages I think making concrete plans to become a refugee in response to your very safe country of residence being the minor parner in bombing some terrorist infrastructure a pretty long way away from the country you live in is .... not the same as storing some extra freezer food.

Do you make these "plans" every time the UK becomes involved in US or NATO air strikes?

It will be no surprise to me when the petrol prices (and everything else) go back up after dropping down a bit due to 'shipping issues' and instability in the oil producing regions. And who profits from that do we wonder?
Why on earth is it ok for us to bomb the Yemen (on a moral basis) but not ok for us to assist the Ukraine, over and above Boris bobbing over for a photo call now and again? Funny that

lightand · Yesterday 21:40

I'm too old to get too concerned.

Feel like I have seen it all several times before.

And i would agree with this too
If you look back through history we're actually living in probably the most generally peaceful and legally protected time to date”

This. watch The Hollow Crown, 1917, Dunkirk or Belfast for a bit of perspective. ‘Twas ever thus but still somehow the world keeps turning, for people in the West anyway.

@Allequal Yes it is bizarre to claim that the world was at peace until that point, Yemen has been war torn for over a decade I think-Syria, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Venezuela, Myanmar, Sudan, Lebanon, just a few from recent memory and I will have missed lots out.

I blame media reporting. The news we see is heavily filtered-despite 24 hour reporting, we just get the same stories shoved in our faces repeatedly-we should see more general global news.

@piscofrisco Jeez - I mean they are very different situations for a start.

Well it can’t be Australia or New Zealand 🤷🏼‍♀️
Antartica?

I agree, I suspect you'll find lots of those claiming to be terrified just feel so because they're worried it'll affect them here. Which I suppose is human nature to care more about stuff that might directly affect you. Often the same rhetoric around well we shouldn't get involved because what if it puts me at risk pops up. Whilst not claiming all military decisions are brilliant and flawless, there has to be hard decisions made to try and keep our interests safe- and those decisions aren't always keeping out of it, often that would be worse and lots can't comprehend that.

@Ginmonkeyagain I'm
Not saying they aren't. It's just very clear that where America (and we) stand to benefit we will act very quickly. Where we don't, we don't. And that's been the case for decades. Iraq war anyone?

@JenniferJupiterVenusandMars

Antarctica? Them penguins are tyrants you know 😉

Well yes of course! Countries get involved in wars that affect them shocker!

Also the geopolitics of Ukraine make NATO or US bombing action impossible - unless you fancy a nuclear war on your doorstep.

Bascially starting a war between two nuclear super powers is slightly more high stakes than bombing a few terrorists

We are supporting Ukraine in every way we can bar boots on the ground, which will absolutely escalate to a global conflict. Training Ukraine military personnel here in the UK, providing equipment, intelligence and weaponry etc. It very much is in our interest and Americas for Russia to not win, I'm not sure why you'd suggest it isn't. In this case there have been repeated warnings over the past few months and its not like you can successfully negotiate with terrorists is it. Different situations.

There have been issues in Yemen for a long time. This air strike is because British and US ships have been attacked. It will not lead to world war three. It is a situation that will rumble on for years.

@Allequal

"Our politicians have deals under the table that mean they personally benefit financially from this war. And for the idiots who call this conspiracy, how many times do these under the table deals have to be revealed in the news before you realise that this is an everyday affair with in the world of politics? "

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Conspiracy theorist at their finest - I guess you have some special insights which the rest of us "idiots" don't. 😀

Just to spell it out the US and UK politicians don't have any under the table deals which see them financially gain from bombing Yemen. This really is not "an everyday affair in the world of politics " - the US and UK politicians are simply not that smart.

Whilst I disagree with using multi million dollar missiles to re arrange Yemeni sand - it is simply a case of US and UK politicians wanting to be seen to be doing something. Ineffectual as it is, it has nothing to do with under the table financial deals or "brown faces".

And do we not think this has the potential to escalate to global conflict? Of course it has...just because it hasn't until now doesn't mean it won't-it probably make its more likely surely?
Does it not strike you as even slightly odd the speed with which the RAF are suddenly dropping bombs on the Yemen?
The amount of time it takes this joke of a government to do almost anything else?
I'm sure you will tell me I'm a conspiracy theorist-I'm absolutely not-I just don't think we ever do anything without there being some financial gain for us as part of the motive. And in the middle of that are ordinary people getting blown up.

Do you see the issue with inflation spiralling again as it just did?

I was wondering that too.
Getting urgent passports and increasing balances on credit cards in preparation for a swift departure at the ‘first sign of trouble’ doesn’t exactly sound like ‘getting on with life as normal’.

Yemen and the Houthis are not a nuclear power. Russia is. Which does, whether you like or or not, affects how keen countries are to get involved.

Also last time I checked Putin wasn't attacking British and American ships. The Houthis are.

Finally if you had been paying attention, this situation has been brewing for years and has come to a head now due to the unprovoked attacks on civilian ships. These ships are, unsurprisingly, considering not using these routes which will have massive impacts on economies of many countries.

@piscofrisco

"Why on earth is it ok for us to bomb the Yemen (on a moral basis) but not ok for us to assist the Ukraine, over and above Boris bobbing over for a photo call now and again? Funny that"

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The UK has committed £4.6 billion in military assistance to Ukraine so far (£2.3 billion in 2022 and a commitment to match that funding in 2023).

And because the UK directly bombing Russia (second largest nuclear power) on a moral basis is probably not a smart move for the UK.

It hasn't just happened-as early as October Houthis were launching missile and drone attacks, which were mostly intercepted-diplomatic attempts to stop have failed, a warning was given, this also failed. The intelligence agencies and US/UK/other parties will have been monitoring this for a long time with a view to using force in self defence.

Even RUSSIA abstained from voting in a UN Security Council Resolution (widely expected to veto) condemning Houthi attacks-meaning the resolution was adopted.

Good to know

I donate to charities supporting children and families in countries like Ukraine, Yemen, Palestine.

But beyond that I try not to think about it.

It sounds harsh and selfish, but I find it too difficult to think about.

I donate what money I can, I've been on a few marches....I don't know what else to do.

It's horrible.

@piscofrisco

"I'm sure you will tell me I'm a conspiracy theorist-I'm absolutely not-I just don't think we ever do anything without there being some financial gain for us as part of the motive. "

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Depends on whether you see trying to stop the disruption to international trade and subsequent economic and inflationary impact as "financial gain for us" or not.

I just don't worry about things that haven't happened yet. If war comes to this country I'll deal with it then.

@inamarina it’s a few forms and clicks and a few hundred quid. Nothing. I’ve been meaning to sort passports for a while anyway.modern tech makes these things very simple and quick, you don’t even have to speak to anyone.
so yes. I have a plan. So I can relax and think about other things.

I think this is a good point. It's important to know what is going on in the world to an extent but there is only so much information we can handle, especially as not all of it is reliable and is often deliberately ramped up to provoke fear and escalate tensions.