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Argh, look at this awful text from a date!

564 replies

londonisnotme · 10/01/2024 21:00

AIBU to think it's just bloody awful?

'Hi L! How are you? Sorry I haven't replied , busy few days in the office. Listen, I really enjoyed our time together but I think your caring roles are a different world to mine. It just doesn't seem right for me to, and I thought you needed to know. You ARE beautiful (yes you are!) , but I can't get past this. I needed you to know so you knew why sometimes it won't work , but I'm sure there's a very nice guy out there just for you 😌'

I go from thinking it's cringe, to patronising. To maybe making for of me?!

For context, went on a few dates. Kissed and asked to have sex. I did. I wanted to. Wasn't very good but we move

He's then text this. Whilst I'm on a date with someone else Saturday night Grin

I still haven't deleted the text so me and a few friends can have a laugh.

OP posts:
Getthethrowonthesofa · 11/01/2024 08:23

Ramalangadingdong · 11/01/2024 08:22

This guy isn’t serious about dating anyone but is just after sex and prefers to play games rather than be upfront about it. What is more, he is subtly letting the women know after the event that they’ve been “had” - even if he knows that they are not that into him. The yes you are! is a childish reference to having seen her naked. He is letting her know that he isn’t the nice guy she is looking for, even though he pretended to be before they slept together.

This is not a clumsy text from a guy trying to do the right thing, it is a patronising put down from a wanker. Op is a clever young woman who saw through it immediately and called it out from the start. Perhaps her being a parent carer makes her more pragmatic about these things while a lot of us (older?) women must be so brainwashed by misogynistic shit that we thought he was at least trying to do the right thing. Bullshit.

Wow, that’s such a leap and extreme analysis based on nothing but a goodbye text. Even folks who know him would hesitate to go so far.

KimberleyClark · 11/01/2024 08:24

Ladolcevita233 · 10/01/2024 22:48

Saving his text to show others & laugh at him is childish ' nasty.

No, it's not.

That message absolutely deserves ridicule and derision.

Especially the "you are beautiful, yes you are" part ... With zero context. The only context being he has decided she is undateable (due to having the backbone and integrity to be the main carer to her child with disabilities) and would be so delighted and feel better to receive his oh so kind comments on her looks. He's so kind he's going to shore up her ego; in the only way that could possibly matter.... Looks.

Edited

He might possibly have meant it in a more general way than it came across, as in “beautiful inside and out”.

ManateeFair · 11/01/2024 08:25

Nerurio · 10/01/2024 21:11

You ARE beautiful (yes you are!)

He capitalises "are" and adds "yes you are!" assuming you'll naturally think you aren't beautiful. Patronising dickhead.

Absolutely this. Soooo patronising!

Waitingfordoggo · 11/01/2024 08:27

MorningSunshineSparkles · 11/01/2024 08:21

@Lex345 at the risk of sounding stupid, could you explain why that’s not a compliment please? I took it as him reassuring the OP after she’d disparaged her own looks? Feel like I’m massively missing something here cause everyone else is thinks it’s unpleasant 🤦🏻‍♀️

OP said in another post that she had not disparaged her looks; the way she looks had not come up in conversation at all, I don’t think. They met for a date and he said she looked nice and she said thanks, you too.

Pottedpalm · 11/01/2024 08:29

Ramalangadingdong · 11/01/2024 08:22

This guy isn’t serious about dating anyone but is just after sex and prefers to play games rather than be upfront about it. What is more, he is subtly letting the women know after the event that they’ve been “had” - even if he knows that they are not that into him. The yes you are! is a childish reference to having seen her naked. He is letting her know that he isn’t the nice guy she is looking for, even though he pretended to be before they slept together.

This is not a clumsy text from a guy trying to do the right thing, it is a patronising put down from a wanker. Op is a clever young woman who saw through it immediately and called it out from the start. Perhaps her being a parent carer makes her more pragmatic about these things while a lot of us (older?) women must be so brainwashed by misogynistic shit that we thought he was at least trying to do the right thing. Bullshit.

What a load of bollocks!

Rnaom · 11/01/2024 08:32

londonisnotme · 10/01/2024 21:54

'Nice meeting you. Sorry but it won't work. I don't think I'm the compatible to be with someone's who's a carer'

But really there was no need to include that at all. But if he really wanted to, that sort of thing is fine

What's not is bringing in my looks and there will be the right guy for me

I know and I don't see why any women should care for their opinion on 1. How beautiful they think they are and 2. If they think there's 'someone out there for them'

Unfortunately this would then be criticised for being too cold/direct/brusque, especially after having slept together.

Everyone is different, you might prefer that direct cool message, but someone else might be gutted by it and much prefer something softer like he sent.

It's not a great message, but the guy contacted you when he didn't have to (there were no expectations of more dates I'm guessing?), let you know why it wasn't a match for him instead of leaving you wondering (again, maybe you don't care, but someone else might want to know) and given how awful, rude, and downright scary dating can be sometimes, I couldn't get worked up over this. Clumsy, but well-intentioned.

TooOldForThisNonsense · 11/01/2024 08:33

Message back no worries you were a crap shag anyway and block

vix3rd · 11/01/2024 08:33

Answer is 'k. bye

Ramalangadingdong · 11/01/2024 08:34

Pottedpalm · 11/01/2024 08:29

What a load of bollocks!

That is exactly what I am trying to say.

But you put it rather more concisely than I did.

Whyisjanuaryalwaysfreezing · 11/01/2024 08:34

This reply has been deleted

Apologies, all - this has been deleted as it was posted by a previously banned poster.

HarpyRampant · 11/01/2024 08:35

Your response to his ghastly bit of patronising self-delusion is entirely correct, OP. It’s other people’s responses to it that are depressingly illuminating of their thought processes.

Getthethrowonthesofa · 11/01/2024 08:40

TooOldForThisNonsense · 11/01/2024 08:33

Message back no worries you were a crap shag anyway and block

If I got that I’d laugh quite loudly and think what a twat, how pissed off is he to get dumped

AnnaSewell · 11/01/2024 08:42

It does make me think that unless you know somebody well enough to be able to read between the lines of their text messages, it's better not to have sex with them.

JustAnotherKingCnut · 11/01/2024 08:48

Personally, I think a simple "No worries - all the best" acknoweldges the message and lets him know he needn't give it so much throught, because it wasn't that serious for you to be hurt.

Americano75 · 11/01/2024 08:48

Oh, I'd need to respond in kind to that I'm afraid. That 'yes, you are!' alone demands it.

AnonnyMouseDave · 11/01/2024 08:55

ConciseQueen · 10/01/2024 21:03

This seems OK to me? He’s not ghosting or being rude or anything?

Yeah... he's not showing himself in the best light but "cringe" and "odd" and "a bit weird, but not massively" and "unimpressive" are the sorts of words that spring to mind.

MaryDroppings · 11/01/2024 09:03

Looks like we never got to find out what a 'parent carer' was then?

SleepingStandingUp · 11/01/2024 09:03

TooOldForThisNonsense · 11/01/2024 08:33

Message back no worries you were a crap shag anyway and block

Yes, nothing says "bitter and hurt" more than a petulant reply.

Daniagainagainagain · 11/01/2024 09:04

Sceptre86 · 10/01/2024 21:15

It just goes to show you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. He didn't think you were compatible and instead of ghosting you sent a message. A message that was either clumsy or patronising (I think a bit of both) depending on which way you look at it. It's over, you aren't losing any sleep over him and are already back out on dates. I also agree with another poster that 'who diss?' would be a perfect reply.

Edited

Yeah this.
This is such a men hating forum and people get their arses in a twist so easily it's so predictable 😂

Is that really what you and your friends laugh over? It just makes you look like you're secretly bothered.

If you're not bothered you'd just delete and that's that. Not send a screenshot to your mates and act like a school child.
If he didn't message you he'd be a twat, if he did message you he'd be a twat.

Just block and move on.

HarpyRampant · 11/01/2024 09:04

MaryDroppings · 11/01/2024 09:03

Looks like we never got to find out what a 'parent carer' was then?

I’m assuming it means the OP has a child with SN to the extent that she doesn’t work outside the home and receives a carer’s allowance.

SleepingStandingUp · 11/01/2024 09:08

Goatymum · 11/01/2024 07:32

Better than being ghosted!

Well perhaps standards should be above that.
He presumably knew she had a disabled child to care for before they had sex, but he was willing to hang on for a shag and then tell her it's because she's a carer doe her child. Which is fine, but if it's an issue, make that clear before the sex.

And then there's the whole "you ARE a pretty girlie, yes you are, yes you are, I said so so it's true!!" nonsense when op has made it clear she never expressed any insecurity about that.

A "I've given it some thought and I don't think our lifestyles are compatible, good luck and all the best" would have been faress patronising, far less about him - "I AM attracted to you but I just couldn't DATE you".

He's made her sound like some desperate insecurity thing desperate for validation.

Nerurio · 11/01/2024 09:10

Amybelle88 · 11/01/2024 03:03

OP - I think you come across fucking fabulous. Very straight laced, take no shit and seem to know what you want.

Hes a cringey, patronising, walking red flag - I think as you haven't messaged him and he's then sent you this wanky message, he's got onto the fact that you're not too arsed and wanted to 'get in there' first.

He's a loser.

This.

I've read "he was trying to be nice, even if he was patronising", "at least he isn't a psycho stalker", "at least he didn't ghost you".
May my bar never be so low.

I have been with DP many years now, but I would never excuse a patronising text with "at least it wasn't as bad as..." OP knowing she's worth more than being grateful for not being ghosted is the right attitude. As she was already on another date, it sounds like she wasn't patiently waiting on communication from him anyway.

C1N1C · 11/01/2024 09:11

It does sound alittle patronising, but at least he tried to explain, even if it doesn't make him look the best.

I'm not sure OP can criticise though as she was with a new date when she received it!

Maybe just me... if I liked someone enough to have sex with them, I'd usually wait to find out the situation before going on dates with others.

SecondUsername4me · 11/01/2024 09:13

Love the "who dis?" Suggestion Grin

Are you going to reply to him?

I'd want to do something equally patronising

"Yes, I quite agree we aren't right for each other, but you will be the right man for someone - just keep looking, I'm sure you have lots to offer the right woman, chin up"

Flickersy · 11/01/2024 09:14

He's made her sound like some desperate insecurity thing desperate for validation.

She's done that herself by posting it all over the internet going on about how she just doesn't care.

If she really didn't care, she'd just have blocked and deleted and thought no more of it.

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