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Posting here for urgent help, Very long, I need help before I give up

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nhbid · 10/01/2024 18:50

It’s not my intention to offend anyone so sorry if I word something wrong, I have a 27 year old son, ASD and a multitude of mental health conditions including a personality disorder. His is on medication, but he is exactly the same on meds as he is off them.

He is aggressive, Plays people off against each other, Is a compulsive liar, Can be violent, Sends abusive texts constantly, Has hit me, thrown things at me, threatened to kill me, threatened to burn my home down, Has smashed my windows on my home so much that I had to move, smashed my car up, makes constant threats if he doesn’t get his own way, Blames me for every single little thing that has ever or does ever go wrong in his life, Every single day is another drama which he seems to thrive on and enjoy, Openly tells people he will only know true happiness when I’m dead, Its endless and its every single day of my life. He lives alone, We do not live together.

He loves to cause rifts between the (extended) family then when everything blows up will act all confused and ask why everyone has fallen out with him and why his family can’t just get along. Literally his favourite thing to say is ‘Can’t we all just get along now?’

He enjoys doing things like posting a note through my door at 3am telling me once he gets home he is going to kill himself, he will be dead by the time I read that note and its my fault he is dead, Woke up read that and called an ambulance, When they got there he was playing xbox and told them I fell for it again..

The latest thing he is doing is making up allegations about me, not small things, life changing things, Not only that but he is actually going to to police reporting me and in the last month alone I have had the police to my home asking various questions etc, To give an example he told the police I was trying to kill him by poisoning his food or drinks, I explained he has always been like that with food/drinks, all of his life and will not accept anything from anyone unless its sealed/unopened. He told them I had been taking significant sums of my grandparents money (total lie) Five different allegations so far. The most serious is he started telling people his dad used to touch him when he was a kid, then the same day once everyone knew he said he made it up because he enjoys seeing me hurt and he enjoys the distruction he is causing me. His words.

Two weeks ago he showed up at my home and told me he was going to kill me, I was doing a video with my phone in my pocket and caught him saying that so he was arrested (again) and is now on bail, I was recording because the last time he showed up he smashed my window so I wanted some proof if it happened again. An hour after being released on bail he was banging at my door wanting to be let in.

He then called me last night, I answered and he started screaming at me that I was dead to him, he fucking hates me, wishes I was dead and I’m an evil cunt for what I have done to him, This morning I woke up to a text saying he was sorry that he’s just stressed out, can't we not just get along? then this afternoon called me an evil twisted cunt again. He’s ok for ten minutes then it all starts again.

On top of all of the above he has done nothing but talk of the MI5 following him, children on his street being spies, cars deliberately shining their lights into his windows at night, taxi drivers are all working with the police feeding them information, gangs of people following him, he has had his neighbour arrested for something he didn’t do, and recently shouted in his neighbours face for driving his car out of his own driveway.

There is NOTHING normal in my life and nothing to look forward to, Anything good is shat on or ruined by him instantly. I have had one holiday in ten years, First hour I arrived there he called me to say he was going to kill himself because I was a bitch of a mother that has abandoned him.

Changed my number a few times but he just gets it from other people, Blocked him many times but he just gets a new number or just shows up at my home, If I tell him I want nothing to do with him until he gets help with his mental health he just forces himself back into my life and nothing ever changes or gets better.

His mental health team are aware of all of the above and NEVER get back to me, if I go to speak in person they are always out of home visits, He has been arrested many times and nothing changes.

What can I do to get out of this infinite loop? I woke up today and all I could think was I would be better off dead as there is no way out of all this. This has been going on every single day since he was 13. I'm waking up being sick, I don't feel well myself at all, Every day starts with doom and gloom and drama and I just know today will be the same as tomorrow and the day after and the day after.

I really need help but feel there is none? Apart from changing my identity and moving to the moon I’m unsure if any of this is ever going to change or get better? If I ask for advice from anyone i know nobody knows what to advise because who would really unless they are going through it themselves?

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NeedToChangeName · 10/01/2024 21:32

What a horrendous situation. Agree with PP, Women's Aid could offer you emotional and practical support

I understand the guilt about being unable to help him, but imagine your friend told you this story about her son. What advice would you give to her?

hellsBells246 · 10/01/2024 21:35

I'd block him on everything, tell everyone not to give your number to him, and move far away.

I'd also call the police for advice. He's stalking you, and he's on bail.

I'm so sorry: it sounds like such a difficult situation.

Hellnope · 10/01/2024 21:35

donestic abuse is between family members too, not just partners. I would speak to a charity like women’s aid and get some advice and understanding, they might be able to help you move too. So sorry

TigerJoy · 10/01/2024 21:36

I'm sorry you're going through this OP.

You are doing so well to keep going.

I agree on those saying move, if you can. Restraining order in the meantime.

auntyElle · 10/01/2024 21:37

Has no one urged you to get a restraining order? Would that not help at all?

rwalker · 10/01/2024 21:38

I would move and in all honesty disappear from your entire family

this is beyond a mother’s love for help
he needs professional services to help

this cycle is never going to change you have to break it for your own well being

HighlandCowbag · 10/01/2024 21:38

I am so very sorry OP. A family member went through similar with her son. He was a paranoid schizophrenic, addicted to amphetamines, other drugs, alcohol.

Her life and their relationship was horrific. It was co dependent, violent, she fought so hard to try and get him help but he was failed over and over again. I genuinely think at some point he would have killed or seriously hurt her. She got ill and died. He stopped coming around when she was no longer well enough to be useful to him, he didn't even come to the funeral.

My advice, and I do not say this lightly is move away from him. Do not give your address to anyone. Change your name if you have to. He didn't care about her at all once she could no longer give him money or food or even terrify because she was never alone, the people that cared for her made sure of it. He tries still with other family members to get money, support etc but he is kept at arms length by everyone. They only tolerate what they do because they promised his mother they would make sure he was ok.

He very nearly got sectioned in the months following her death as it was only his.mum keeping him fed and giving him enough to fund his habits but at the last minute he agreed to certain conditions to stay in the community.

Move away mate, this won't get better and if you have done all you possibly can, you have done enough and more. Don't lose your life for his MH issues.

LuluBlakey1 · 10/01/2024 21:40

Please leave. Move a long way away to a place he can not find you. Change your name, do not allow your details to be in an electoral roll. Change your car and use the apple hide your email identity - it creates email addresses that then feed to your email but never reveal your email. Change your phone number and start again in social media with a new identity. Don't reveal your new address to your family or anyone you cannot 100% trust. Phone anywhere he might link to you eg gas or electric companies, banks etc and request they do not reveal your address to anyone and it is a DV situation. Make sure the local police know.

You need to escape him and get him out of your life completely, for ever. You are going to waste the rest of your life living like this, in danger, if you don't.

izimbra · 10/01/2024 21:42

I'm so so sorry for what you're going through, it sounds incredibly tough. Are you on Parenting Mental Health on FB? If not, join us here https://www.facebook.com/groups/parentingmentalhealth 41K members - many dealing with similar severe stress from hostile and mentally ill teenage and adult children. They will understand the difficulty of walking away from your son, even though it may be what you have to do right now to survive.

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Delphinium20 · 10/01/2024 21:42

Oh, OP, my heart breaks for you but I also feel hope for you because there IS a way out of you can move and stop all contact with anyone who would give you away. You have absolutely no more obligations to him and I think you should move as far away as financially and legally possible. You deserve this. Your son has been abusing you for years and you need to escape. You deserve to make new friends and a new life. I don't know your job situation but a safe, low-income job that provides just the basics to live will be heaven compared to the hell you're in.

justasmalltownmum · 10/01/2024 21:42

Had a family member like this. Exact same diagnosis, do this exact same behaviour to his ex.

He was arrested and finally charged with stalking with violent intent. Got 7years.

Falkenburg · 10/01/2024 21:42

auntyElle · 10/01/2024 21:37

Has no one urged you to get a restraining order? Would that not help at all?

That would work if someone was 'normal' but menacing. The ops son is a paranoid schizophrenic and a restraining order would be meaningless to him.

He is not rational.

Raspberrymoon49 · 10/01/2024 21:43

So sorry you are in this position OP, you can’t carry on like this, please contact Women’s Aid, have you tried any other resources, would CAB have any ideas? Really feel for you

Nestnearlyempty · 10/01/2024 21:54

Women’s Aid. They have refuges where you can be safe and can support you with advice support and counselling. Please go, and soon.

SleepingBeautySnores · 10/01/2024 21:55

I'm SO sorry to hear of what you're going through OP. I've had some what I thought were pretty major problems with my child, but compared to this, it's just a blip! I do know how difficult it is to get help these days though, and think that moving away and cutting him out of your life completely is the only way to go. How much more of your life are you going to have to spend living this hell?

As for anyone who guilt trips you about 'leaving your son', tell them that if they care so much, then they are welcome to take over, but you are OUT! And mean it!

Sad though it is, there are simply some situations in life that can't be fixed, and if things are allowed to carry on as they are, he will either kill you, or you'll end up taking your own life. Neither of these things are acceptable.

I do appreciate how hard it is to walk away, because I did it for a number of years, and in my situation it did make a difference, but with the MH problems that your DS has, I think you need to accept that you've reached the end of your rope, and that there is nothing further you can do for him. Again, I'm SO sorry!

LuluBlakey1 · 10/01/2024 21:56

I have known someone for years and she has, on occasions talked about her childhood like we all do. Recently, she told me it was all made up. That she moved here 20 years ago to escape domestic violence. She left the place she had grown up, elsewhere in the country, came here, where she knew no one and started again.
She changed everything- her name, her car, email etc. Told no one from her past where she was. Even her parents do not have her address. She has a mobile phone that only they have the number to. Her other phone is her normal mobile. She found a job, rented a flat. Has gradually built a life and now owns a house, has a better job, lots of friends, but he still tries to find her. She never allows herself to be photographed. She has her hair a different colour, is three stone lighter than she was then and never allows herself to put weight on. She has never returned to her family home but does meet up with her parents in different places around the country- when she meets them she wears clear glass glasses. She's clearly still terrified of him. He regularly goes to family and old friends asking about her.

I was shocked. She didn't tell me anything identifying about her past .

madroid · 10/01/2024 21:57

I think this is a monumental mental health service failure. Your son's medication is definitely not working and I would insist that his mental health/social services team strive to do better for him. Currently there would seem to be serious risk of violent aggression and his quality of life (never mind yours) must be very poor.

I would start with a visit to his GP and yours. His GP (and yours can bring pressure too) need to make an urgent referral for a new assessment of his medication.

If he has been on risperidone, it's possible that is now being administered by a depot (longlasting) injection. But risperidone doesn't work forever and it it is not unusual to need to change to something completely different like Clozaril/Clozapine. He will need to be admitted for the change to take place.

If you need support (and it sounds like the case to be honest) look for an advocacy service - such as https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/guides-to-support-and-services/advocacy/what-is-advocacy/

In the meantime (because no doubt this will all take x 10 longer than it should) decide to work on this say 2 hours a day, then do something for you. Every day. You need to put yourself first, look after yourself and recharge.

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Govangirl · 10/01/2024 21:58

Oh OP, I’m so sorry you’re going through this, how horrendous. My older brother (NC) used to absolutely batter my mum when we were children, so I know how scary it can be to have someone like that in your family. As PP have said, please contact Women’s Aid, or give the National Stalking Hotline a call, they’re run by the Suzy Lamplugh trust. Not sure where you’re based and might have missed, but in Scotland we have a domestic abuse hotline open 24/7 on the off chance you’re up here. My heart goes out to you, hoping you can have a safe and peaceful 2024 and that your son gets the professional mental health support he so desperately needs. xxx

capabilityfrowns · 10/01/2024 22:00

Hi op
I'm a police officer .

Have you reported any of this to the police ?

If not - start . When he kicks off call 999.

Police can safeguard you , and try to access him the help he needs . If he refuses then he will need to take the consequences.

The last chap I know of who was as you describe your son ended up murdering someone in cold blood . Just set about a random stranger in the street for some perceived slight and literally caved his head in .

You need to be ringing 999 every single time .

Sophie2024 · 10/01/2024 22:01

nhbid · 10/01/2024 19:15

Borderline personality disorder, also ASD, OCD, Anxiety, Paranoid schizophrenia..

my sil had paranoid schizophrenia and made our lives a living hell ! aggressive , abusive , lied made us feel guilty and stopped us from living a normal life. she had zero support from the mental health team as the system is broken and zero support from ss . she accused us of stealing her money and we nearly got taken to court but she died shortly after ( cancer ) . only then did it stop after 21 years of hell , nearly broke us as a couple : (

You need to make a real choice and step back from him , yes you will feel guilty but this sounds worse. i doubt he has insite into what hes doing and how it effects you and clearly needs serious treatment and intervention and possibly sectioned ?

You need to call a womens refuge and relocate far away to break this and keep yourself safe XXXXXX Your putting yourself at risk, please make that call XXXXX

capabilityfrowns · 10/01/2024 22:02

Use the police op

This is beyond women's aid . Police every single time.

madroid · 10/01/2024 22:04

I know there's posters who know nothing of mental health problems but I am astounded at some of these responses.

The man is ill and while he is terrorising his mother (for whom I have complete sympathy) he is also almost certainly in a hell of his own too. He surely deserves some compassion? (AND a decent mental health service)

cheekyplunder · 10/01/2024 22:09

I'm very sorry OP, this is tough.

Unfortunately you cannot help someone with serious illnesses like these, and are so compounded. Experts need you.

You do however need to do whatever you need to do to get a handle on your own safety and mental health. If that includes moving, and not giving out your new number to those who give it to your son.

Wishing you luck

Andthereyougo · 10/01/2024 22:14

Definately guilt. Rest of the family have pretty much turned their backs on him but if I try to I get guilt tripped with 'Oh but he's your son, you can't just walk away, you can't just abandon him' etc

You CAN walk away and you SHOULD walk away.
Your son is breaking his bail conditions , it seems from this and everything you’ve said he has no care for consequences ( I have experience of this in a professional capacity) so being arrested won’t deter him. He may well follow through his threats to harm or kill you — he will not see the consequences of his action.
You need to go, move away, for your own safety.
Don’t tell anyone where you are, change your number give it only to the police.
Without you SS, mental health services etc will have to take action.

You’ve spent too many years feeling guilt when you’ve done nothing but try to be a good mum.Contact as many sources of help to move away as quickly as you can.